**FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #2

[rees2001]

So....
42.349905
-71.076072
342.242026

I have read through all of this & I have only come up with questions. I guess I'll throw them out there like I would with my team.

1. How accurate are the coordinates?
1a. What does the Hancock tower look like?
1b. What is in John Singleton Copley's hands? (only thinking this because of that crazy Dave)
1c. What is in our hands... thinking....?
2. Has anybody tried to search the numbers in something other than Google earth?
2a. If you think the first 2 numbers are coordinates, what id the third number? ( I know that has been discussed about at great length) What if we are off on all 3 numbers?



So...
After all of my thinking I'll leave you with this (& I hope I hasn't been discussed because it took me a half hour of thinking to come to this.

What is in the reflection of the John Hancock tower? The 2 Old Hancock Towers. What is at the top of the Old Hancock Tower? I'll let you figure that out.

[pandamonium]

three numbers triangulation, two buildings reflected off of a third. hmmmm


any body smart enough to brake out sin cos tan cot cos sec on these numbers? sadly i am not

[popo308]

Originally Posted by rees2001

So....
42.349905
-71.076072
342.242026

I have read through all of this & I have only come up with questions. I guess I'll throw them out there like I would with my team.

1. How accurate are the coordinates?
1a. What does the Hancock tower look like?
1b. What is in John Singleton Copley's hands? (only thinking this because of that crazy Dave)
1c. What is in our hands... thinking....?
2. Has anybody tried to search the numbers in something other than Google earth?
2a. If you think the first 2 numbers are coordinates, what id the third number? ( I know that has been discussed about at great length) What if we are off on all 3 numbers?



So...
After all of my thinking I'll leave you with this (& I hope I hasn't been discussed because it took me a half hour of thinking to come to this.

What is in the reflection of the John Hancock tower? The 2 Old Hancock Towers. What is at the top of the Old Hancock Tower? I'll let you figure that out.

In the top floor of the tower there are two huge 300 ton weights to help the building stay straight. On top of the building there is an observation trolley on tracks that was closed down because of the world trade center crash. I think the coordinates are more concerned towards that building because it is very unique in the way it looks (the other 2 reflecting) and the way it works (the giant weights) As someone else has said the EXACT coordanants point to a LIGHT POLE!! geez! common

[team2061]

Originally Posted by popo308

In the top floor of the tower there are two huge 300 ton weights to help the building stay straight. On top of the building there is an observation trolley on tracks that was closed down because of the world trade center crash. I think the coordinates are more concerned towards that building because it is very unique in the way it looks (the other 2 reflecting) and the way it works (the giant weights) As someone else has said the EXACT coordanants point to a LIGHT POLE!! geez! common

woodie flowers clue does say something about being careful with jello. jello is unstable just as the building would be without the 300 ton weights. hmmmm

[popo308]

Originally Posted by team2061

woodie flowers clue does say something about being careful with jello. jello is unstable just as the building would be without the 300 ton weights. hmmmm

It was very unstable. engineers actually had to shut it down and add about 3 million dollars of steal cross beams because it was swaying way to much.

[popo308]

wow not even 7 hours and 200 posts! WOW

[joeweber]

Remeber the GAME TIP IT, you add weights to tip it one way or the other.

[JaneYoung]

Originally Posted by popo308

It was very unstable. engineers actually had to shut it down and add about 3 million dollars of steal cross beams because it was sawing way to much.

I'm sorry, did you mean swaying? I got a visual of a building 'sawing' other buildings and it had to straighten up and stop.

[popo308]

Originally Posted by JaneYoung

I'm sorry, did you mean swaying? I got a visual of a building 'sawing' other buildings and it had to straighten up and stop.

Yes im sorry i haven't gotten any sleep lately because of CD. My spelling has been horrible today....

ahh but sleep will come soon

[Scott L.]

In refrence to the weights in the top of the building, I think episode 4 of the first season of Numb3rs deals with a building being unstable when the wind struct the building at a certain angle. The solution, if memory serves me, was to add the system of moving weights on the roof.

Just a possiblility, remember one years hint was "a shovels show" in refrence to Davis Spade of just shoot me.

[popo308]

Originally Posted by Scott L.

In refrence to the weights in the top of the building, I think episode 4 of the first season of Numb3rs deals with a building being unstable when the wind struct the building at a certain angle. The solution, if memory serves me, was to add the system of moving weights on the roof.

Just a possiblility, remember one years hint was "a shovels show" in refrence to Davis Spade of just shoot me.

Interesting... Its weird how woodies hint about jello is actually somewhat relevant since we have this huge building which at one point was very "jelloish" as well. (unstable)


ok so not exactly jello but hey its a thought.

[team2061]

My guess is that were going to have to stack unstable boxes on moving platforms that can be either controlled or just move around or maybe even stack it on your robot but wasnt this already used in the stacker game?

[popo308]

Originally Posted by team2061

My guess is that were going to have to stack unstable boxes on moving platforms that can be either controlled or just move around or maybe even stack it on your robot but wasnt this already used in the stacker game?

I deff agree the game piece is prob going to be unstable and there might be something involving counterweight?!? (such as an endgame or autonomous)??

Just a thought

[Aren_Hill]

So, we need to stop and do a quick recap. Are these numbers pointing towards a game name, field element/setup, or sensor related things.

I myself am fairly certain of the first 2 numbers being coordinates just because of the chances that if there were something else how would they also point to the middle of a major city with so many interesting things around it.

I'm picturing counterweights on the field in some way/shape/form either allowing robots to pass somewhere or not.

The "truckin" reference with the lights and visual aspects Stephlee found is also quite profound being it was on Dave's choice of music for a competition. And would also fit using a combo of the cmucam and the newly acquired IR board.

That and the fact those coordinates point into the middle of an area thats been highlighted in several treasure hunt stories (Da Vinci Code, newly released National treasure)

Daves probably just having fun again and finally convinced the rest of the GDC how much fun it is screwing with us.


Wasn't there talk of a pvc gamepiece half filled with sand, water or some object therefore making it unstable? i seem to recall that and a pic of dave holding it

[popo308]

I have a feeling that the IR board will be used to do AUTO selection or something along those lines for autonomous. The RC still gets signal from the IR board when it is in disable mode and auto mode so the field could easily send the robots data before or during auto??