**FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #2

[Swttrt224]

Originally Posted by steadfasttuna

ok so i have been mulling this over and i have a theory... that is pure speculation

first lets look at the song

Sometimes the light's all shining on me--regular field lights on
Other times I can barely see-- black lights on, field lights off
Lately it occurs to me-- i have nothing
What a long strange trip it's been-- i got nothing


The first two numbers are the coordinates pointing to the light pole with 4 lights. This is referencing the FTC game Quad Quandary. The FRC game will be essentially the same except we will have circles, squares and triangles to put onto corresponding posts. As for the third number, it is the approximate wavelength of black light so randomly the field lights will go out and black lights will come on. The posts that we have to score on will be emitting different IR frequencies and that is how the robot will know what post it is in front of during autonomous and when the black lights are on because the drivers will not be able to see the posts.

I really like this idea...it kinda relates to an idea i had earlier about an "invisible maze" that we'd have to go through using the IR

[team2061]

My guess is that were going to have to stack unstable boxes on moving platforms that can be either controlled or just move around or maybe even stack it on your robot but wasnt this already used in the stacker game?

[popo308]

Originally Posted by JaneYoung

I think Andy Grady was talking about this earlier, if it is the same kind of idea.
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...&postcount=115

The train tracks were actually for an observation trolley not weights.
The weights were inside the building hanging so when the building shifted they did not shift with it so the weight would help pull it back.

[popo308]

Originally Posted by team2061

My guess is that were going to have to stack unstable boxes on moving platforms that can be either controlled or just move around or maybe even stack it on your robot but wasnt this already used in the stacker game?

I deff agree the game piece is prob going to be unstable and there might be something involving counterweight?!? (such as an endgame or autonomous)??

Just a thought

[PhilBot]

Since the first two numbers are such clear lat/long, it seems to me that the last number must be a compass bearing... but to what?

In the near range, it points to The Globe Bar and Grill....

See here... http://www.gearsinc.org/images/342_deg.jpg

But what about in the far field. Somone posted that it points to Manchester....

Well, yeah, sort of.

See here... http://www.gearsinc.org/images/342_deg2.jpg

In fact it's kinda close to the Manchester Memorial High School, where the FIRST FIRST games were held (took a while to find that name).

But it's still not close enough. The real heading to this school is 337 (not 342)

I was thinking that the clue was that the game would be a repeat of the 1992 game

Magneic deviation does mess with things, but it's about 15 degress in boston, so that's too much difference.

Sigh... Jerry Garcia is looking better all the time Steph

[Aren_Hill]

So, we need to stop and do a quick recap. Are these numbers pointing towards a game name, field element/setup, or sensor related things.

I myself am fairly certain of the first 2 numbers being coordinates just because of the chances that if there were something else how would they also point to the middle of a major city with so many interesting things around it.

I'm picturing counterweights on the field in some way/shape/form either allowing robots to pass somewhere or not.

The "truckin" reference with the lights and visual aspects Stephlee found is also quite profound being it was on Dave's choice of music for a competition. And would also fit using a combo of the cmucam and the newly acquired IR board.

That and the fact those coordinates point into the middle of an area thats been highlighted in several treasure hunt stories (Da Vinci Code, newly released National treasure)

Daves probably just having fun again and finally convinced the rest of the GDC how much fun it is screwing with us.


Wasn't there talk of a pvc gamepiece half filled with sand, water or some object therefore making it unstable? i seem to recall that and a pic of dave holding it

[popo308]

I have a feeling that the IR board will be used to do AUTO selection or something along those lines for autonomous. The RC still gets signal from the IR board when it is in disable mode and auto mode so the field could easily send the robots data before or during auto??

[steadfasttuna]

sorry for looking like a complete idiot but this is my first year doing FIRST, who is this Dave?

[Aren_Hill]

Dave Lavery, quite an interesting fellow
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/member.php?u=171

i actually don't even know how to explain him lol

[steadfasttuna]

Originally Posted by Aren_Hill

Dave Lavery, quite an interesting fellow
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/member.php?u=171

ok that makes a lot of sense now, thanks

[JaneYoung]

Originally Posted by steadfasttuna

ok that makes a lot of sense now, thanks

This might help as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Lavery

Basically, he's one cool guy.

[team2061]

Another thing to keep in mind is that usually the name of the game rhymes.For example rack n roll, stack attack, FIRST Frenzy, ect. so this may somehow help us...i think.lol

[popo308]

Originally Posted by team2061

Another thing to keep in mind is that usually the name of the game rhymes.For example rack n roll, stack attack, FIRST Frenzy, ect. so this may somehow help us...i think.lol

hmmm but what to we have to rhyme off of?

[team2061]

Originally Posted by popo308

hmmm but what to we have to rhyme off of?

something box, e.i stock box or vise versa

[legomaster3945]

it seems to me that they dont rhyme so much as have the first two letters the same but i know what u mean if i knew the time i think i could rhyme(ok so i couldnt help it)
hum sleep... :/
daves response "DO NOT WANT!!!! MUAHAHAAHAHAH"