**FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #2

[StephLee]

Originally Posted by bfvaneyck

Teams,

Has anyone, knowing Dave L's association with the Mars Rover program, tried mapping these coordinates on Mars?

I think it was tried earlier in the thread; in fact, I'm almost positive it was.

EDIT: Here it is, from page 19:

i went out on a limb and searched it on google mars (yes they have google mars) and it doesnt support coodinates
(i know there is probably no corrilation but worth a try)

[AndyB]

Originally Posted by ebarker

A few months ago there was a little discussion I think on CD about "counterweights" in the upcoming season ?

Anyone remember the goals from MVL 07'... Counterweights...

[StephLee]

I've just been to see "National Treasure: Book of Secrets" and thought I'd post my observations that go with the earlier speculations about a connection. If you care about having certain parts of the movie spoiled, don't read this next section.

---MINOR SPOILERS AHEAD---

The number 243 is part of the Library of Congress call number for the President's Book. This is both the main part of our third number backward, and a connection to the Library of Congress. It's also almost certainly coincidental, since it's such a small detail that I doubt the GDC could have found it online prior to the movie's release, and thus it would have nothing to do with our clue.

The more interesting connection I spotted was briefly mentioned earlier in this thread:

Originally Posted by jakflyer

ok, i have read all [most] of this thread and i saw the theories about the movie national treasure and the counterweight idea. I saw the movie tonight and thought i would put in my two cents: (this may or may not spoil the movie for you, its not that important though)

near the end there are four characters who have to stand on the corners of a giant wooden square that is balanced on a giant spike. They have to move around to keep the square balanced, and then they have to move together to try and raise up a corner so the guy could reach a suspended ladder.

Im not sure if i totally believe in the theory connecting the clue to national treasure, but if its true I would say that there would be something like that in the game, maybe four robots (using IR) that have to balance on a square in the center for the endgame.
Thats just what i think, its probably wrong though but just putting it out there

This goes with the discussion about the Hancock Tower and it's counterweighting system, and is a much more likely connection to the movie since it's a larger plot point and could easily have shown up on a synopsis before the movie was released.

----END SPOILERS---

I realize this is all probably entirely circumstantial, but it's very interesting, and made the movie even more fun since I was constantly looking for connections. (I'd definately recommend the movie, by the way.)

My random thoughts for the night.

[bfvaneyck]

Hmmm..

I believe there is a protocol for geographic mapping of non-terrestrial planets that mirrors 'our' latitude/longitude corrordinate system. Has anyone tried searching the NASA site for Mars mappings?

[AndyB]

InfraRED..... RED planet, could be mars... don't know where i would even start in looking up a GPS coordinate on mars...

If it was Mars though, then why would they give us such specific coordinates. And what about the 3rd coordinate. I think GoogleMaps Streetview for Mars is still under development. If you take out a digit, how much broader do the coordinates then become. What about 2. Are we sure these are GPS coordinates?

Other thought... boston tea party.... they dumped what.... barrels of tea... BARRELS. Interesting game piece...

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[bobdahaxor]

Well. I think we overlooked what Mrs. Beatty said with the Deli. The deli's name is Short Stop Deli which would imply there is a lot of mobility needed. In addition short stops may be hard to do with massive counterweights or huge weights period!

[Elgin Clock]

Originally Posted by bfvaneyck

Hmmm..

I believe there is a protocol for geographic mapping of non-terrestrial planets that mirrors 'our' latitude/longitude coordinate system. Has anyone tried searching the NASA site for Mars mappings?

If you go here: http://www.google.com/mars/

You can actually look at sites that have been named & mapped by clicking on things in the top of the map which will give you the coordinate of places, but you can't actually type in a coordinate to search it.

[artdutra04]

Originally Posted by Elgin Clock

If you go here: http://www.google.com/mars/

You can actually look at sites that have been named & mapped by clicking on things in the top of the map which will give you the coordinate of places, but you can't actually type in a coordinate to search it.

Here's our magic numbers inputted as lat/long coordinatea on Mars:

http://www.google.com/mars/#lat=42.3....076072&zoom=8

If you zoom out a few notches, you'll see that all those lines make up (what appears to be) one of those giant dry riverbeds on Mars.

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by artdutra04

Here's our magic numbers inputted as lat/long coordinatea on Mars:

http://www.google.com/mars/#lat=42.3....076072&zoom=8

If you zoom out a few notches, you'll see that all those lines make up (what appears to be) one of those giant dry riverbeds on Mars.

I really don't think this applies to the game hint though. Unless its going ot be called Mars Madness or something in which robots use IR (infraRED-Red planet?) to move or collect globe shaped objects off the field (planetary object) and place them into the center. lol

$.02

[artdutra04]

And while I'm still sleepless at 3am, here's the location on the Moon. It's just south of the large crater, but nowhere near any of the Apollo mission landing locations.

http://www.google.com/moon/#lat=42.3...zoom=7&apollo=

Originally Posted by XxMORTteam11xX

I really don't think this applies to the game hint though.

Exactly.

Game Hints are governed by the laws of Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle.

We* will never know the true meaning of game hints, for if we did, the observations which we carried out to uncover the true meaning would only invariably change the actual game hint itself. Thus making it a self-defeating endeavor.

However, if we postulate about an infinite number of possibilities for the Game Hint, it will run out of things to change into that have not already been used, and will thus be correct with one of the previously mentioned theories based upon simple statistics of normal-distribution with a mean-value of "banana"**.


* Except Car Nack. The mayonnaise jar of truth does knows all.

** Though depending on the circumstance, the mean-value can also be "Jello", "water" or "inflatable clowns".

[Tottanka]

Originally Posted by artdutra04

However, if we postulate about an infinite number of possibilities for the Game Hint, it will run out of things to change into that have not already been used, and will thus be correct with one of the previously mentioned theories based upon simple statistics of normal-distribution with a mean-value of "banana"**.

Check Greg Needle's game guess from 2007 =]

[GaryVoshol]

Originally Posted by artdutra04

Here's our magic numbers inputted as lat/long coordinatea on Mars:

http://www.google.com/mars/#lat=42.3....076072&zoom=8

If you zoom out a few notches, you'll see that all those lines make up (what appears to be) one of those giant dry riverbeds on Mars.

So it's an EX-water game!

[Chief Samwize]

Does anyone else find it ironic that when you open up the link for the coordinates on mars that there is an infered option on the top. Also when it is clicked on it highlights craters nearby.

-Sam

[Vince lau]

going by the Mars theme some of you are talking about, what if the 42.349905 is like the distance of Mars from Earth in million miles. Based on the info. found on this site http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/que...php?number=564
you find that mars is 0.5AU (Astronomical Units) from Earth. and if you convert to million kilometers you get 75 million kilometers or roughly 46.6028394 million miles. Not knowing how accurate this site is, maybe the 42.349905 is a more precise measurement. even though the difference is like 4 million miles.
only 9 days left to kickoff

[Libby K]

Originally Posted by Chief Samwize

Does anyone else find it ironic that when you open up the link for the coordinates on mars that there is an infered option on the top. Also when it is clicked on it highlights craters nearby.

-Sam

WHen I did that, it showed part of the image, with a whole bunch of thick gray lines.

My immediate thought was, "Zoom out. Maybe it's a message".

It's nothing, but I figured it would have been

Originally Posted by dlavery

Nah nah nah nah nah!!!

-dave



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