**FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #2

[Geekzilla201]

This is what I was able to get from reading 35 pages of ideas.

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Coordinates: 42.34990
-71.076072
342.242026

A and B form the coordinates of Copley Square, Boston, MA

-John Hanncock building is located in Copley Square

-Building has arena-like top

-Building has mirrored sides which, when looked at in the proper place,
allow you to see the old Hanncock buildings

-Quad Streetlights in Copley Square migt be related to the FTC game "Quad Quandry"

-Quad Streetlights = Four light sources = Four Teams on Field

-Light reflects off of Hanncock building so Reflective sides on game field

-Song Truckin' (favorite song of Woodie or Dave)
Sometimes the light's all shining on me
Other times I can barely see
Lately it occurs to me
What a long strange trip it's been

-"Barely See" could relate to Infrared Light

-Bounce Infrared Signals off of mirrors to be recieved

-Triangles and Squares in Copley Square, Globe Cafe is 342* from Copley Square

-Obelisks 342* from Copley Square could represent two game pieces

-Trinity Church (Copley Square) = 3 = Corners of Game Field (Such as the Hanncock Roof)

-December 21 (release date of clue) = National Treasure Release Date = Treasure under Trinity Church

-Paul Revere used Lights = National Treasure

-Add all three numbers=313.515859 3135~314 and 15859~159 so 314159~3.14159=pi

-Hanncock building has Red and Blue weather lights on roof

-National Treasure Connection: Reveres House is 343yds from Old North Church @ 343*

-Painter "Copley" painted a portrait of Revere

-Weather Beacons can show 4 colors (Red, RedFlash, Blue, BlueFlash)

-"For two, this seasons for you" Dave = Two Team Alliances
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Does anyone else have something I can add?

[JaneYoung]

- weight/counterweight

- a Tortoise and the Hare concept that Elgin introduced

[lbarger]

Hint 1: An infrared receiver capable of learning four signals.
Hint 2: 3 high precision numbers, 2 suggesting GPS location of Copley Square and a third with multiple possible solutions.

Connections to Paul Revere, the Revolutionary hero, and music (Paul Revere and the Raiders, the Beasty Boys and Greatful Dead's "Truckin").

It's "Dance Dance Revolution!" The robots will be SQUARE Dancing to the IR signals!

Sorry, my wife made me put this one in!

I really like the idea of traffic cones as game pieces and "Coupling Squares" as a game name. Even if they are not part of this year's game, look for them to show up in the future!

[Capt. Quirk]

Originally Posted by JaneYoung

- weight/counterweight

High precision #'s / The Grateful Dead

They are just messing with your minds

[Jack Jones]

Aim Higher Trinity!?

[whlspacedude]

I have not read everything but what if you switch the coordinates around?
71.076072 - 42.349905

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=71.07 6072+-+42.349905&ie=UTF8&ll=71.076061,-42.349892&spn=19.70802,82.265625&t=h&z=4&om=1

Were going to GREENLAND!!!!

(look slightly to the right there is something huge buried in the ice)

[Bsteckler]

Not Greenland, Antarctica.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...t=h&z=4 &om=1

Could someone good at Antarctic geography tell me the name of that location or if there are any important research centers there?

[11Mort11]

Originally Posted by Daniel_LaFleur

Maybe it's just me being thin-skinned . It's just that we beat the GPS coords to death, without conclusion, and haven't yet even started to explore that the numbers may relate to Pythagorean theorem.

Just out of curiosity ... what sort of structure could be built out of a triangle (or triangles) with those dimensions?

In any case, lets keep having fun guessing ... and we'll all find out if anyone guessed it correctly on Jan 5.

tetras again

[Bill Tompkins]

One thing to keep in mind about PCM (pulse code modulated) IR transmitters (remotes), they will interfere with each other. If two or more PCM encoded IR signals are broadcast at the same time, they will interfere with each other. The decoder will not be able to use either signal.

I doubt FIRST would allow teams to use IR to contol the Robot becasue it would be too easy to jam each other. IR is invisible and would be impossible to prevent.

Whatever FIRST plans to do with them you can bet the IR beams will be separated. Probably beaming out from the center of the playfield in quadrature.

Another possiblilty, the signals (1 of 4) will be sent out at different times. Channel 1 for the first 15 second, channel 2 for the next, ... Maybe the Robots will have to follow and respond to these IR becons.

B

[11Mort11]

Originally Posted by Geekzilla201

This is what I was able to get from reading 35 pages of ideas.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Coordinates: 42.34990
-71.076072
342.242026

A and B form the coordinates of Copley Square, Boston, MA

-John Hanncock building is located in Copley Square

-Building has arena-like top

-Building has mirrored sides which, when looked at in the proper place,
allow you to see the old Hanncock buildings

-Quad Streetlights in Copley Square migt be related to the FTC game "Quad Quandry"

-Quad Streetlights = Four light sources = Four Teams on Field

-Light reflects off of Hanncock building so Reflective sides on game field

-Song Truckin' (favorite song of Woodie or Dave)
Sometimes the light's all shining on me
Other times I can barely see
Lately it occurs to me
What a long strange trip it's been

-"Barely See" could relate to Infrared Light

-Bounce Infrared Signals off of mirrors to be recieved

-Triangles and Squares in Copley Square, Globe Cafe is 342* from Copley Square

-Obelisks 342* from Copley Square could represent two game pieces

-Trinity Church (Copley Square) = 3 = Corners of Game Field (Such as the Hanncock Roof)

-December 21 (release date of clue) = National Treasure Release Date = Treasure under Trinity Church

-Paul Revere used Lights = National Treasure

-Add all three numbers=313.515859 3135~314 and 15859~159 so 314159~3.14159=pi

-Hanncock building has Red and Blue weather lights on roof

-National Treasure Connection: Reveres House is 343yds from Old North Church @ 343*

-Painter "Copley" painted a portrait of Revere

-Weather Beacons can show 4 colors (Red, RedFlash, Blue, BlueFlash)

-"For two, this seasons for you" Dave = Two Team Alliances
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Does anyone else have something I can add?

if the third number is a bearing it could point to new hampshire
dean kamen

some where in the first few pages

[robogeek753]

Just to clarify; the quote is "For the two this season is for you" It could mean two team alliances (the two refering to the seasons we had two team alliances) but the inclusion of "the" makes that possiblit slightly less likely. (i.e. reference to the Mars rovers and Dave's "other" car.

[11Mort11]

Originally Posted by whlspacedude

I have not read everything but what if you switch the coordinates around?
71.076072 - 42.349905

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=71.07 6072+-+42.349905&ie=UTF8&ll=71.076061,-42.349892&spn=19.70802,82.265625&t=h&z=4&om=1

Were going to GREENLAND!!!!

(look slightly to the right there is something huge buried in the ice)

its a boat buried in the ice

[7/16ths Master]

Hmmm, For The Two, this season is for you

For the two what? Could it have something to do with the two clues rather than anything about Mars? maybe we should also start thinking about the IR in addition with these three numbers rather than looking at both clues separately

[GRST]

I'm not sure if this has been thrown out there before, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't on the first 22 pages.

What if the IR directs (not receives) autonomous mode- you have to position your robot facing a transmitter and it will receive some code which it has to execute? I'm not a programmer so I have no idea if this is feasible at all.

I also like the maze idea. Hearing about the stuff on the Hancock Building, it might even be an obstacle course. Perhaps instead of IR boundaries as originally suggested (I'm building off of the above idea) you again receive the instructions which will blindly control the robot through part or all of the maze? But then the drivetrain would have to be standardized...

[1086VEX]

Originally Posted by 11Mort11

its a boat buried in the ice

it would be a huge boat...look at the size of greenland compared to the US its enormous...the boat would be like the length of VA sideways... but it does look like one...