**FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #2

[StephLee]

Originally Posted by geeknerd99

They make switches for that nowadays.

Indeed they do. We've used a custom one for the past two years. They work really well.

[DonRotolo]

Originally Posted by cgredalertcc

It just seems too easy to narrow things down if it is Greenland or Antarctica or whatever.

Greenland & Antarctica both have a lot of water, but in its solid state....Ice Game? (JK)

Originally Posted by Roger

I'm thinking of the six place precision of the three numbers. Could it be that the programming has to be switched from integer to -er- floating point?

..Or.more precisely, the new Robot Controller we think is coming will be better suited to floating point math?

Just a few more days folks...

Don

[billbo911]

Originally Posted by Don Rotolo

..Or.more precisely, the new Robot Controller we think is coming will be better suited to floating point math?

Just a few more days folks...

Don

I am starting to believe this more and more.
It would not surprise me that the second hint was formatted to look like GPS coordinates on purpose just to throw us off.
There are several other subtle clues and history that are pushing me in this direction. Only time will tell.

[Roger]

I thought the new Robot Controller was coming out <counts on fingers> for the 2009 game? Kevin is certainly working on cleaning the code for this season anyway. While floating point math does make it easier (hey, I remember when the 8086 chip improved AutoCAD!), even trig can be done the old fashioned way. Not that I want to go back...

Custom switches? We do it thru the port 1 joystick buttons. While we couldn't catch which way the rack went we could change the autonomous after we put the robot on the field. We did have a 4-switch box on the robot the year before, but for some reason binary numbers (even "up down down up") confused the drivers . We did test a custom box into port 4 but using the joystick was easier.
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[AndyB]

Originally Posted by Roger

Here is a captured shot of Google's location of 42.xxx, -71.xxx (green arrow) with degrees from North clockwise and counterclockwise. Notice how close 342.xxx CW is to the street grid. (Field checking might bring it exact.) The red rectangle is the approximate size of the 2007 game field, not placed anywhere in particular, but to give the scale of the location. The satellite photo shows something at the arrow spot. (I'm using Google because of their connection with FIRST.)



All the extra tubes were sold at the FIRST store and Building 19.

Outside of the "water game" joke, there could be different colored carpet indicating water which can't be crossed, etc.

I'm thinking of the six place precision of the three numbers. Could it be that the programming has to be switched from integer to -er- floating point?


Even with some of their hints I'm not too sure even then we'd figure them out.
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Great job with that map. I think this makes it conclusive. Globe Cafe.

[Code Monkey]

The fact that there are 4 led's suggests 4 corners - having a game that uses squares is over due as we have had triangles and circles several times.

Is there a circuit diagram for the hint board? I have gotten the PIC manual for the chip.

[coldabert]

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[Laaba 80]

I'm sorry, I know this is way off topic, but could somebody please tell me how to post new threads? I've been looking for about a half hour on how to do it, and I just can't find it. I knew many people follow this post, so I have the best chance of a response. Again, i'm sorry it's way off topic. Thanks

[bduddy]

It's right below all the topics, on the left side. I don't think you can post new topics on this board.

[MiniNerd24]

Man wouldn't it be terrible we were all losing sleep, paining big bucks for pain killers( for headaches ) and all of this chat about ice and water and Boston, only for us to find out it's much simpler. This is a great thread and you all are awesome hint figurers, but maybe we should sort of start over with the clue and then try each of our ideas out (not literally) to see which are plausible and which just seem to complicated?

[EricH]

Originally Posted by dr1008

all of the extra tubes from last year, and what they were going to use them for

The idea of a water game has been around long before then. Do a search for Water Game and find the oldest thread. It'll be several years old.

Originally Posted by 0705920

**FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #2
notice the #2 here. it means something.

I believe that the IR board is a FAKE because the Blast archive have been update and #2 is there but no sign of the first one.
you can check here
http://www.usfirst.org/community/frc...t.aspx?id=6616

so i think #2 means something, maybe 2 bot alliances, or 2 light colors and 2 cameras for navigation.
this is all getting wierd.

Just remember, the possibility of the IR being a fake has already been debated in the thread about it in the Extra Discussion forum. It might be that the blast hasn't gone out to all teams yet. 2-team alliances? Been there, done that, can't get the teams through fast enough. 2 cameras? There was a reward offered to the first team to do that. It went unclaimed. 2 light colors? Maybe, but I doubt it. More likely one light color and an IR transmitter (or four) on the field.

[Kristian Calhoun]

Originally Posted by EricH

2 cameras? There was a reward offered to the first team to do that. It went unclaimed.

Team 375 successfully used 2 cameras during the 2007 season - they won four technical awards, including Delphi's "Driving Tomorrow's Technology" at the Championship Event.

So, what was the reward?

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Kristian Calhoun

Team 375 successfully used 2 cameras during the 2007 season - they won four technical awards, including Delphi's "Driving Tomorrow's Technology" at the Championship Event.

So, what was the reward?

During the 2005 season, Dave offered (lots of) Krispy Kremes to the first programming team do have stereo vision. I'm not sure if that offer is still open. It went unclaimed at the time, even by Kevin Watson (who did make a stab at it).

[lukevanoort]

This thread is so random and full of overanalysis of the smallest things; I feel like I am back in my English class discussing why Kathy saying "I left" is a subtle reference to the title of Never Let Me Go and how that shows Ishiguro's ideas on blah blah blah. Actually, I could probably take a paragraph from the (rough draft) of my term paper for English and swap the word 'Camus' for 'Dave', 'absurdist' and 'existentialist' for 'water game,' 'L'Hote' for 'the game,' 'Daru' for 'the hint,' and 'the Arab' for 'FIRSTers' (plus a few other swaps) and have it make sense in this thread.

Joking aside, here's my thoughts:

All of the game hints share the general concept of determining information about the state of something from a distance without being physically there/connected to it. (IR remote detector, long/lat & google earth). So, I think this means that, while a robot makes its own path through the field, the course of a robot's motions are set at a distance (unconnected to the robot), which stands in opposition to the ideas of water games (ie radios don't work well under water).

In a central idea of the game hint discussion, FIRSTers are left with a choice: to follow the path to the unlikely, and a water game; or to continue with carpet, and face the truth of an incomprehensible hint. This choice acts as a sort of divining rod; every moment Dave presents us with with hints (jello, kites, bad jokes, etc), and, while a person's decisions may be influenced by outside forces (desires, other hints, fear), the choice of what to do is ultimately their's, and thus, the hints reveal the inner souls and desires of FIRSTers worldwide.

Hey, it worked!

[AndyB]

My best guess is similar to 04. Globe Cafe to me signifies in its simpilest form, a large ball. My guess is some sort of capping... or it could anything that has to do with planets... Could just mean its a ball game again this year.