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2008 Documentation

OK, we have sections 0 to 5 downloaded. When do the encrypted sections usually get released? Not too many days to go until Kickoff!

When were the 2007 encrypts released?
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Re: 2008 Documentation

According to the E-mail Blast Archive, the six sections of the manual (Introduction, Arena, Game, Robot, Tournament, and Kit of Parts) were released at 5 PM EST on January 3, 2007 (the Wednesday before Kickoff).

EDIT: The 2006 encrypted sections of the manual were posted on January 6, the Friday before kickoff, while the 2005 and 2004 encrypted sections were posted on the Thursday before kickoff.
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Re: 2008 Documentation

I am the alternate contact for my team and usually receive all of the FIRST email blasts - haven't seen anything yet. Let's hope they repeat last year's timing and make the encrypted versions available today - many are traveling tomorrow and Friday.
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Re: 2008 Documentation

Maybe they are going to go old school and include a CD (scratch that, more like a flash drive) and a hard copy of the Manual in every kit again this year?
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Re: 2008 Documentation

Not being posted until AFTER Kick Off......I am 99% sure I saw it in an email blast no too long ago.
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Re: 2008 Documentation

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Not being posted until AFTER Kick Off......I am 99% sure I saw it in an email blast no too long ago.
That's what the website says also. I thought it might be a typo
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Re: 2008 Documentation

This season, the FIRST website has handled the traffic of registration well. Maybe they're confident the site can deal with the spike of traffic after kick-off?

...or maybe something has fundamentally changed about the structure of the manual that might tip their hand?

...or maybe there's an unusually short time between the holiday and kick off this year and we're all anxious to get started.
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Re: 2008 Documentation

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...or maybe something has fundamentally changed about the structure of the manual that might tip their hand?
Now there's an intriguing possibility.
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Now there's an intriguing possibility.
.....things that make you go hmmmmmmmm.....
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Re: 2008 Documentation

http://www.usfirst.org/community/frc...t.aspx?id=7494 "The remaining game-related sections will be encrypted and available for download on January 5th, 2008, after the Kickoff."

I'm not sure why they would be encrypted if they are not releasing them until after kickoff... but maybe I'm misreading it.
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http://www.usfirst.org/community/frc...t.aspx?id=7494 "The remaining game-related sections will be encrypted and available for download on January 5th, 2008, after the Kickoff."

I'm not sure why they would be encrypted if they are not releasing them until after kickoff... but maybe I'm misreading it.
Perhaps you need the IR board to read them
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Re: 2008 Documentation

FIRST has their reasons, but I must say this is gonna be an interesting race to download before traffic gets too heavy...
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Re: 2008 Documentation

If they were concerned about the document structure revealing something, they could provide an encrypted ZIP file or something. Or a very massive multi-section PDF. While their servers did do better this year, I'm not really confident they'll handle that many downloads at one time. Nor would I be happy that teams at local kickoffs without internet access would be deprived of a complete manual to glance over before touring the field. So I'm hoping this is just a typo or misunderstanding and the encrypted manual will be pre-released per usual.
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If they were concerned about the document structure revealing something, they could provide an encrypted ZIP file or something. Or a very massive multi-section PDF. While their servers did do better this year, I'm not really confident they'll handle that many downloads at one time. Nor would I be happy that teams at local kickoffs without internet access would be deprived of a complete manual to glance over before touring the field. So I'm hoping this is just a typo or misunderstanding and the encrypted manual will be pre-released per usual.
I completely agree Kevin. While the kickoff presentation does a great job of giving us an overview of the new challenge it also leaves MANY unanswered questions. And I suspect there will be many people attending kickoffs where they don't have internet access available. A serious waste of travel time back home ...

I would consider it a huge step backwards if the encrypted manual is not released ahead of time.
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Re: 2008 Documentation

Would it be ok (as in gracious professionalism), for a team and/or some other website to put up the game manual as soon as it is released, as to lessen the traffic on the FIRST website?

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