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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #2

Wouldn't a globe big enough for something or someone to move around in fulfill the gerbil hint?

And I love the traffic cone / maze idea! After all, Boston has been the home of the "Big Dig, " which has meant traffic cones for years and years!
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #2

I can't believe nobody found this yet:

The old John Hancock Building has a weather beacon at its peak, which somebody around page 11 connected to the 342 number. Well according to Wikipedia, this beacon flashes Red and Blue!

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Steady blue, clear view.
Flashing blue, clouds due.
Steady red, rain ahead.
Flashing red, snow instead.
Could be two new lights and each signals a different portion of the game (and scoring).
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #2

342.242026 is the Molecular weight of C11H17Cl2N3O3S

(3-methyl-2-methylsulfinyl-imidazol-4-yl)methyl N,N-bis(2-chloroethyl)carbamate
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Boston's "Big Dig" officially ended Monday night, at least in terms of all the contracts.

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342.242026 is the Molecular weight of C11H17Cl2N3O3S
Now that's an obscure reference!

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8) I doubt water will ever be used since owners of large open buildings rarely like the idea of water running around their floors
We've played in Manchester and Boston, and both arenas have had water all over the floor, with the owners' approval. (Ice skating rinks! )
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Boston's "Big Dig" officially ended Monday night, at least in terms of all the contracts.


Now that's an obscure reference!


We've played in Manchester and Boston, and both arenas have had water all over the floor, with the owners' approval. (Ice skating rinks! )
It might be hard to guarantee every competition location and kickoff location to be okay with having large amounts of water in the area, as well as the fact that fields must be buildable by teams. Water makes things hard. Not many teams could find a spot to stick a giant aquarium...
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #2

342 is Babe Ruth's life time batting average in round numbers, maybe if you calculate the number to full precision it is 342.242026.

Played for the Bosox too .. and Fenway park is right next to Copley Square.

Could it be a baseball based contest?
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342 is Babe Ruth's life time batting average in round numbers, maybe if you calculate the number to full precision it is 342.242026.

Played for the Bosox too .. and Fenway park is right next to Copley Square.

Could it be a baseball based contest?
If by "right next to" you mean 6 miles, then sure.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=e...9911&z=15&om=1



And, I just remembered this past weekend the only obscure reference I recall that someone, who is named Woodie, made about Boston.

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Sometimes, he said, he wonders how much society understands or appreciates scientific achievement. Using the Ted Williams Tunnel to make this point, Professor Flowers said, "Here you have a multimillion-dollar engineering triumph, and it's named after a guy who could hit a rock with a stick."
Quoted from both here:
http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/1997/techday-0611.html
& also paraphrased here:
http://bostonphoenix.com/boston/news...s/01710000.htm
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I can't believe nobody found this yet:

The old John Hancock Building has a weather beacon at its peak, which somebody around page 11 connected to the 342 number. Well according to Wikipedia, this beacon flashes Red and Blue!



Could be two new lights and each signals a different portion of the game (and scoring).
That has been discussed and Elgin provided a picture, woohoo!
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If by "right next to" you mean 6 miles, then sure.
I guess I should have left the MIT campus more when I lived there. But I do know what a Smoot is.
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If by "right next to" you mean 6 miles, then sure.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=e...9911&z=15&om=1
Might be quicker via Comm Ave and Kenmore Square; the area around Berklee gets kind of messy. Depends also if my boss is driving or not

Ha! I once changed a floor plan to dimension in Smoots, in honor of a boss I once worked for who went to MIT. He was not amused.
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1) GPS coordinates and compass bearing plus Hint 1 - are they re-introducing the IR tracking beacons?
The GPS location may not be the Statue of John Copley, but lets follow that train of thought for a moment.
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3) Looking up John S Copley in Wikipedia - one can find his paintings. For the late 1700s the colors are stunningly brilliant. I expect illuminated targets of several colors.
4) Reading Wikipedia, I followed the link "The Defeat of the Floating Batteries at Gibraltar, September 1782" and read about that. It appears the British developed the innovative "hot potato" to destroy the barriers. I don't know about any burning hot objects, but "hot potato" would be a good contest name. (Have a game piece the opposing team(s) don't want)
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The 'hot potato' idea is really interesting. What if the game piece has different modes that change what score it gets or what you need to do with it, and we use the IR to determine what mode it's in?

Also, going back to the K'Nex in the first hint, what if we sense whether a piece is red or blue using the IR, then connect it to another piece of the correct color to score... But we could lose points if we incorrectly identify it, of if it changes.

Thinking a bit further outside the box (and my appologies in advance if this has already been suggested in the past 7 pages of this thread), or maybe inside the box- we had tetras for triangles, ringers for circles, so the 08 game could use cubic or square game pieces. It could be a game of stacking cubes, but you could include the gerbil hint if our task were to assemble "cages" out of square game pieces. Or maybe we'd have to put a color-changing "hot potato" into a box.
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I guess I should have left the MIT campus more when I lived there. But I do know what a Smoot is.
Maybe. But do you remember the length of the Harvard Bridge, measured in Smoots (without looking it up)?


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Maybe. But do you remember the length of the Harvard Bridge, measured in Smoots (without looking it up)?

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Smoot = (1/(364.4-ear))*(Harvard Bridge length)

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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #2

Oh dear... he changed his signature once again... at least the middle line...



Oh well... less than two days to go... we'll know soon enough
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #2

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Smoot = (1/(364.4-ear))*(Harvard Bridge length)

<Yes, I looked it up>
Then you would be, within the formal definition associated with the cited precision, incorrect.

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