**FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #3

[JaneYoung]

Originally Posted by Ross340

I just try to envision what the game will be like from the audience's standpoint. You know, some family out one Saturday looking for something to do and happen to stumble across your local regional. They walk in and have absolutely no clue what is going on. The game needs to be visually appealing. Also, it needs to be easily caught onto for said wandering family. That doesn't mean that it's essential for them to know ins and outs of it, but generally be able to catch on in a short period of time.

Si or no?

I think the audience was underestimated by some last year when Rack 'n' Roll was unveiled. As we expand and grow and more audiences are reached, we are developing a fan base of people who are catching onto what FIRST is about. In my opinion, the GDC is very aware of what our expanding audience will find entertaining and exciting. At the least, they are hopeful. The audience will 'get it', I'll just bet. (I met some folks that 'happened by' in Atlanta last year and they thought the game was amazing.)

[rhoads2234]

Originally Posted by EricH

Hurdles don't come up on their own.

The hurdles at my school do, they have wieghts in the back and if somthing runs into it it falls forward then back because of the wieghts.

I have never seen any hurdles that do something different.. what do the hurdles you think of do?

[EricH]

Originally Posted by rhoads2234

The hurdles at my school do, they have wieghts in the back and if somthing runs into it it falls forward then back because of the wieghts.

I have never seen any hurdles that do something different.. what do the hurdles you think of do?

The ones used in the track meets I've been to don't. They just fall flat until someone comes and picks them up.

[rhoads2234]

Originally Posted by EricH

The ones used in the track meets I've been to don't. They just fall flat until someone comes and picks them up.

oh... that's probably better because I have gotten hit by the hurdle in an upswing and it hurt! I had hit the hurdle with my front foot and it hit my back one in return

[=Martin=Taylor=]

Wow. 7 pages and NO ONE has yet to propose a better explanation of the word "vet" than that it has to do with veterans or animal doctors.

According to dictionary.com vet also means:

to appraise, verify, or check for accuracy, authenticity, validity, etc.: An expert vetted the manuscript before publication.

This leads me to suspect that we have to 'check' which goal/game-piece/thingy needs to be scored in autonomous using the IR sensor.

I really like the whole thing about climbing an obelisk, perhaps a very short, squat three-sided obelisk

[Frank Neuperger]

tetra =4
4 IR codes

I am thinking that the 4 IR codes may be used in one of the following ways:

A. identifying at a specific time when a specific Game piece has more value (or no value). When the broadcasted IR ID changes, you focus on the more valuable pieces.

B. identifying at a specific time when a specific scoring area has more value. When the broadcasted IR ID changes, you focus on the more valuable scoring area.

C. A possible autonomous scenario may use IR beacons as waypoints or azimuth references in navigation but more likely (and easier) a master IR beacon would trigger a behavior change in all of the bots on the field. i.e. an autonomous period with 2 or more distinct phases. Perhaps the IR triggers a change in what color target lamp the bot should go for ( with cmucam). This could give 2 or more scoring opportunities during autonomous.

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Hurdles (and stock market) suggests some jagged terrain challenge.

[JaneYoung]

Originally Posted by rhoads2234

The hurdles at my school do, they have wieghts in the back and if somthing runs into it it falls forward then back because of the wieghts.

I have never seen any hurdles that do something different.. what do the hurdles you think of do?

I looked up 'vetted' -
vetted:

1. To make a curvet; to leap; to bound. `
2. To leap and frisk; to frolic.

taken from Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary.

[Jim E]

Another stab at word meanings:

VET:

3.to appraise, verify, or check for accuracy, authenticity, validity, etc.:
An expert vetted the manuscript before publication.

Hurdling-verb:

something immaterial that stands in the way and must be circumvented or surmounted;
"lack of imagination is an obstacle to one's advancement"

FIRST:

www.usfirst.org

tetraacronym)

Terrestrial Trunked Radio (TETRA) is an open digital trunked radio standard for professional mobile radio users.
TETRA is defined by the European... Motorola (FIRST sponsor) is a big player in this market.

FIRST is using TETRA for their radio communications this year. Maybe Motorola is supplying the radios.

The IR board will be the obstacle to overcome to score points.

The GPS? coordinates may be something off the wall to throw us off, or they may be camera settings for a new color of target.

My 2 cents.

[organman42]

perhaps we have to use the IR to triagulate our position in autonomous, or to make scoring easier during the driver period.

[JimWright949]

I was starting to clean out my garage during the break. I got to all of the tetra peices and thought, 'I might as well keep these because FIRST might re-use them again.'

Now I see this and I am glad I did not recycle all of them.

-Jim

[1086VEX]

ha^ i have one in my attic...may need to pull it out

[Bcliff358]

i don't know if someone already stated this but "vet" could mean Veterans stadium in Philadelphia which is completely circular.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Bcliff358

i don't know if someone already stated this but "vet" could mean Veterans stadium in Philadelphia which is completely circular.

Possibly. The capitalization might make that more likely.

Side note: time to 100 posts: 3 hours and a quarter. Ouch.

[tseres]

it would be hard to triangulate with that ir sensor...nearly impossible for FIRST...it would essentially be like finding GPS coordinates on the field with 4 different points...long story short, it's wayyyy too complex for FIRST...way too many interrupys and floating-point math...

i still say another FIRST frenzy....the ir from 04, the tetra from 05, the vet( war veteran, shooting) from 06, and maybe some large square structure that we have to shoot into targets in the middle (the coordinates hint, 07 game)

[Bill Moore]

Vet hurdling FIRST tetra

This clue could indicate an end game autonomous period. In this case, "Vet" would indicate a robot that has completed gameplay, trying to overcome obstacles (hurdling), to get to one of four designated locations (tetra) on the field. The exact locations would somehow be revealed after joystick control has completed.

Yay GDC!! We FINALLY get end game autonomous!