OVERDRIVE Rules/Scoring Questions

[ALIBI]

FROM SSmike

During the game practice, two red "bots" passed the trackballs back and forth. On would lift it over the bar and then the other would pass it back. Could you hypothetically do this the entire game, as long as you are not obstructing the path?

You could, but you would not get points more than once. The Trackball must pass over the opposing alliances finish line before it can be scored a second time for passing above the overpass (G13).

I believe that in the animation, RBot1 passed the Trackball above the overpass to RBot2 (8 Points), then RBot 2 passed it back to RBot1, RBot1 then placed the Trackball on the overpass (12 points per G14).

[webchief2008]

I have a question regarding robot size at the end of the match. I know in years past that robots have sometimes had to end within starting dimension but I did not see any mention of it this year. I may have missed it as I do not have a complete set of the rules but the area my teams rules person thought it would be did not mention it. If anyone could clarify this for me that would be a great help.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by webchief2008

I have a question regarding robot size at the end of the match. I know in years past that robots have sometimes had to end within starting dimension but I did not see any mention of it this year. I may have missed it as I do not have a complete set of the rules but the area my teams rules person thought it would be did not mention it. If anyone could clarify this for me that would be a great help.

You didn't miss it. It isn't there.

[ALIBI]

Questions about G11 and G29 and G36.

If you remove an opposing alliances trackball from their overpass which they placed, and you remove it in a counter-clockwise direction (it passes through the plane of the finish line), have you just hurdled your opponents trackball (G11)? This action seems to saticefy the definition of hurdle. (Edit: Assume G12 & G13 saticefied and G12 seems to give you one shot at a grace period, meaning if you just leave it up there, your opponent can remove just before the end of the match without hurdling it)

While it is legal remove an opposing alliances trackball (G29), if you remove the trackball by any method other than striking it, would you be penalized for possessing it?

While removing an opposing alliances trackball from the overpass in thier home stretch, would rule G36 still apply?

If you violate rules while removing an opponents trackball that hase been legally placed on thier overpass, would the points for placement still count if you have managed to remove the trackball?

[PhilBot]

I still have a question about the legality of carying the ball over the overpass and dropping it on the other site (as shown in the animation).

Since the overpass scoring rule defines the 8 point score as "(2 points for
CROSSING the FINISH LINE – re Rule <G10> - and a 6 point bonus, yielding 8 points total)" and G10 says "Each TRACKBALL that has CROSSED its own FINISH LINE while <B>not in contact</B> with a ROBOT of the same ALLIANCE will earn 2 points"

Then doesn't this mean that if you carry the ball over the overpass, you are in contact with it, so by definition you won't get the 2 points.... and then maybe not even the "bonus" 6 points .....

[GaryVoshol]

Originally Posted by webchief2008

I have a question regarding robot size at the end of the match. I know in years past that robots have sometimes had to end within starting dimension but I did not see any mention of it this year. I may have missed it as I do not have a complete set of the rules but the area my teams rules person thought it would be did not mention it. If anyone could clarify this for me that would be a great help.

No restrictions, except for the 80" cylinder that is in effect all game.

[Cleinhun]

Our team has a question about bumpers. Do they have to make a rectangle around the robot, of can they be angled? (I'm sure it's the same as last year, but I can't find anything in the manual)

Also, if we were to use a "leaf blower" type device to push the ball, would it count as "contact" for rule <G10>? Would such a device even be legal?

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Cleinhun

Our team has a question about bumpers. Do they have to make a rectangle around the robot, of can they be angled? (I'm sure it's the same as last year, but I can't find anything in the manual)

Also, if we were to use a "leaf blower" type device to push the ball, would it count as "contact" for rule <G10>? Would such a device even be legal?

In answer to your first question, all the bumper rules are found in <R08>.

For the second question, I don't know. I'm not even sure such a device is practical. I think that's one for Q&A.