2008 Manual Mirror

[robotguy4]

Originally Posted by monkeboy2042

I just posted an not passworded one, it is all in one pdf 2

Post a link to the post.

[monkeboy2042]

Turns out we can't post mirrors we don't have redistribution rights from FIRST

I had to remove it

[robotguy4]

Originally Posted by monkeboy2042

Turns out we can't post mirrors we don't have redistribution rights from FIRST

I had to remove it

How about "unofficial mirrors"?

[monkeboy2042]

I have no idea

[Cyberguy34000]

Oh come on...

Perhaps I'm a bit biased on copyright issues, but this is ridiculous.

The manuals and kickoff videos are inaccessible for a lot of people, mirrors enable people to learn the rules. This is going too far especially when you consider how far that logic takes you...



We regularly show off FIRST game animations to new members and at demonstrations - (Public performances of a copyrighted work)

We print off manuals and give them to new members - (Unauthorized distribution of copyrighted material without permission of publisher)

We make 3d digital replicas of the field, and post them for others to use (Creation and dissemination of a derivatively work not covered by fair-use).


Seriously.... Where do you draw the line?

[robotguy4]

Well, I'm keeping mine up as "unofficial". I'm just curious about how many people are using it (or refreshing my page... Whatever) so I added a counter (just don't click it).

[Protronie]

Originally Posted by robotguy4

Well, I'm keeping mine up as "unofficial". I'm just curious about how many people are using it (or refreshing my page... Whatever) so I added a counter (just don't click it).

Well I got mine and I'm not giving it back... thanks for posting!

[mneary]

Please explain to all of us, the circumstances where your 'mirror' is better than the official site. Perhaps when the official site isn't as up-to-date as your mirror? Or, maybe, where the official site contains errors while your mirror is more accurate?

[Protronie]

Originally Posted by mneary

Please explain to all of us, the circumstances where your 'mirror' is better than the official site. Perhaps when the official site isn't as up-to-date as your mirror? Or, maybe, where the official site contains errors while your mirror is more accurate?

Or maybe the official is taking forever and a day to load and download cause theres so many trying to use it at once.
A mirror site can take some of the load off the official site and speed everything up for everyone

[Scott L.]

I emailed FIRST about mirroring the manual, the response was along the lines of they discurage it because they have no automic method of notifing the mirrors about manual updates and changes, and don't want the multiple vesions out there for download. This is just my understanding of what they replied to me in the email.

[dani190]

Why are people mirroring it when the first website is working perfectlly...

[jtdowney]

I don't really think their responses to legal threats are GP.

[jtdowney]

Originally Posted by Cyberguy34000

Oh come on...

Perhaps I'm a bit biased on copyright issues, but this is ridiculous.

The manuals and kickoff videos are inaccessible for a lot of people, mirrors enable people to learn the rules. This is going to far especially when you consider how far that logic takes you...

The encrypted manuals have been available since Thursday. They want to have a central dissemination of information. Probably a bit idealistic but you need to respect their wishes.

[robotguy4]

Originally Posted by jtdowney

The encrypted manuals have been available since Thursday. They want to have a central dissemination of information. Probably a bit idealistic but you need to respect their wishes.

So... Are Unofficial mirrors still ok?

[Manoel]

Originally Posted by robotguy4

So... Are Unofficial mirrors still ok?

No, not at all. No, sir.