2008 game confusion thread

[Ragnarokae]

To arizonafoxx: Yes, look at G09:

<G09> During the HYBRID PERIOD, each TRACKBALL that is removed from the OVERPASS (i.e. completely removed from its initial TARGET LOCATION and not in contact with any portions of the OVERPASS) at the end of the HYBRID PERIOD will earn 8 points.

It specifically mentions the hybrid phase.

[GBIT]

So the red robot in the beginning in the animation broke the rule?

[Ragnarokae]

Originally Posted by GBIT

So the red robot in the beginning in the animation broke the rule?

That is what we are trying to decide. When the FIRST website gets the Q&A going, (and the server speeds up) we'll get our answers.

But we are left with speculation (as far as I know) until then.

[akash155]

Are we able to have two infrared controllers on our robot?

[GBIT]

Originally Posted by akash155

Are we able to have two infrared controllers on our robot?

yes but you can only have one driver then.

[jgannon]

Originally Posted by akash155

Are we able to have two infrared controllers on our robot?

You would need to consult the Parts Use Flowchart to find out about the legality of the part. Since it is a duplicate of something in the KoP, I'm inclined to say yes, but since it is not available as COTS, maybe not. In any case, because of <G49> and <R65>, you would still only be allowed to use four buttons on your remote.

Originally Posted by GBIT

yes but you can only have one driver then.

Are you saying that you can have more than one RoboCoach? I'm pretty sure that's not the case.

ROBOCOACH: A pre-college student team member designated as the only team member permitted to provide external stimuli to the ROBOT from either of the two ALLIANCE ROBOCOACH STATIONS. There is one ROBOCOACH per TEAM.

[GBIT]

My bad.

[tony.dalia.195]

For the extra Robo-Coach I believe that in the human demonstration Woodie had said that a team could have to seperate people doing the job, I'm having difficulty finding the rule to suppot this, but that may be why so some people are confused about the Robo-Coach rule.

[Ragnarokae]

The definition of Robocoach is clear that there can only be one robocoach PER TEAM, (ROBOCOACH: A pre-college student team member designated as the only team member permitted to provide external stimuli to the ROBOT from either of the two ALLIANCE.
ROBOCOACH STATIONS. There is one ROBOCOACH per TEAM.), but why couldn't teams share robocoaches?

Anyways, what is the advantage of having two robocoaches? I would think that they would just interfere with each other.

[tony.dalia.195]

Well first I was just adressing where the confusion of a possible two Robo-Coaches came from, and this was the human demonstration.

But there is an advantage to two Robo-Coaches, actually there are a couple..

1.One of the coaches may have a better view and as long as they are communicating well only one would steer the robot so the objective could get completed faster.

2.With all the remotes, robots, obstructions, and distance in this game between the robot and Robo-Coach signals could be not found or misread by the robot, if you put a coach at each station you are doubling the chances that your robot will pick up on the signals more effectively.

[Father Sarge]

Hey what about the idea of shooting a metal plate at the trackballs?

[jgannon]

Originally Posted by Father Sarge

Hey what about the idea of shooting a metal plate at the trackballs?

If it is still attached to you, then it's still part of the robot, and would be a violation of the height rule. If it isn't attached to you, then it would be a violation of this:

<G44> Detaching MECHANISMS - ROBOTS may not intentionally detach parts or leave multiple mechanisms on the TRACK. Violations will result in a PENALTY per incident. If an intentionally detached component or mechanism significantly impedes access to the TRACK or an ALLIANCE ROBOT, the offending ROBOT will be disqualified from the MATCH.

Originally Posted by Father Sarge

Hey what about the idea of shooting a metal plate at the trackballs?

you can't shoot any object from the robot, beside the trackball itself. I'm not sure which rule exactly but i know it's illegal, and possibly against safety rules

[Tottanka]

Is going clockwise in the field considered a violation of the rules and is penalized?

[Ragnarokae]

Originally Posted by Tottanka

Is going clockwise in the field considered a violation of the rules and is penalized?

<G22> Direction Of Traffic – ROBOTS must proceed around the TRACK in a counter-clockwise direction. Once a ROBOT has CROSSED a LANE MARKER or FINISH LINE, it shall not break the plane of the line by moving in the clockwise direction. A PENALTY will be assigned for each infraction.

You can only go clockwise in the quarter of the arena that you are currently in.

And you are penalized if you cross a line going clockwise.