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Re: Hybrid Mode

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How do you control your robot in the hybrid mode?
<G01> HYBRID PERIOD - The HYBRID PERIOD is the 15-second period at the start of the MATCH. Driver control of the ROBOT is not permitted at this time. During this period, the ROBOTS may react only to sensor inputs and commands programmed into the onboard control system. The only external signals that may be received by the ROBOT are those sent from ALLIANCE ROBOCOACHES. No external signals are permitted from any other source. The ROBOT may react to no more than four distinct external commands provided by the ROBOCOACH. All ROBOT safety rules are still applicable during the HYBRID PERIOD. The HYBRID PERIOD ends when the arena timer displays zero seconds left in the period.

So you can use a mix of pre-programming and remote control via infrared receiver.

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Please explain the 3 by 5 cards. Reference:G49
<G49> The Signaling Card shall be a 3-inch by 5-inch card listing the
one to four actions that can be commanded by the ROBOCOACH.

On the card, you must list what actions can be performed using the remote in Hybrid mode.
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Re: 2008 game confusion thread

I'm curious about what they mean by commands or actions your robot can do. For example, if I had a button that was used as an arm up/down toggle (press the button to go up, press again for down), would that violate the rules because the robot is doing two actions from one command? Or is it legal because there is one command (toggle arm state), but what the robot does with it depends on what state the robot's arm is in.
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Re: 2008 game confusion thread

does anyone know when the Q&A will be up?
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Re: 2008 game confusion thread

I think that it is just the one command: toggle arm control.
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Re: 2008 game confusion thread


Enjoy!
These are the stills of the rule being broken in the animation which violates G20<>G36

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but why would they violate the rules in the animation.
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Re: 2008 game confusion thread

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Enjoy!
These are the stills of the rule being broken in the animation which violates G20<>G36

Because im thinking, the rule is not valid or the data from the animation was not valid
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but why would they violate the rules in the animation.
<G36> HOME STRETCH Height Restriction – ROBOTS in the HOME STRETCH of the opposing ALLIANCE can not be more than 6 feet tall. A PENALTY will be assigned for each infraction.

Because the red forklift bot is above the 6ft limit in the opponent's home stretch (the quarter of the arena right before the finish lines).
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<G36> HOME STRETCH Height Restriction – ROBOTS in the HOME STRETCH of the opposing ALLIANCE can not be more than 6 feet tall. A PENALTY will be assigned for each infraction.

Because the red forklift bot is above the 6ft limit in the opponent's home stretch (the quarter of the arena right before the finish lines).
I think he was refering to the fact of why did they mess up (did they?) in the animation, and not how did they mess up in the animation.
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Re: 2008 game confusion thread

Is going clockwise in the field considered a violation of the rules and is penalized?
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Re: 2008 game confusion thread

Since the red robot's "forklift" is over the 'overpass', it is over 6' 6'' and the robot is on the blue alliances 'homestretch'. This does seem to be breaking the rules, unless a definition somewhere is missunderstood.
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<G22> Direction Of Traffic – ROBOTS must proceed around the TRACK in a counter-clockwise direction. Once a ROBOT has CROSSED a LANE MARKER or FINISH LINE, it shall not break the plane of the line by moving in the clockwise direction. A PENALTY will be assigned for each infraction.

You can only go clockwise in the quarter of the arena that you are currently in.

And you are penalized if you cross a line going clockwise.
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Quick question if you send a code in hybrid mode and you press a button and the robot moves forward, and if you hold it down, the arm moves up. Would that be one or two commands?
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Quick question if you send a code in hybrid mode and you press a button and the robot moves forward, and if you hold it down, the arm moves up. Would that be one or two commands?
One, because it is like a toggle.
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<G22> Direction Of Traffic – ROBOTS must proceed around the TRACK in a counter-clockwise direction. Once a ROBOT has CROSSED a LANE MARKER or FINISH LINE, it shall not break the plane of the line by moving in the clockwise direction. A PENALTY will be assigned for each infraction.

You can only go clockwise in the quarter of the arena that you are currently in.

And you are penalized if you cross a line going clockwise.
so in a selected quarter of a field you may move as you wish?
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