OVERDRIVE Rules/Scoring Questions

[cbudrecki]

I didn't see a general discussion forum about this years rules, so I guess this is it.

My current question is: Are the trackball points awarded by color of the ball, or color of the team controlling it? i.e. - If Blue knocks down a red trackball during hybrid mode, does blue then get the points? What about crossing lines?

I think that if the ball colors are for ID purposes only, like the white dots, then creating a scoring sim (like my annual spreadsheet...) is next to impossible!

[fordchrist675]

If you look in the manual it shows you the different ways to score

but color it alliance blue, and red

if the ball goes over the crossbar you get 8 points. Under is 2 points
You also get 8 points if you get the ball off during hybrid mode.

[jgannon]

<G08> All TRACKBALL scores are awarded to the ALLIANCE associated with the scored TRACKBALL, independent of the ROBOT that may have caused the scoring action to occur.

[cbudrecki]

Originally Posted by jgannon

<G08> All TRACKBALL scores are awarded to the ALLIANCE associated with the scored TRACKBALL, independent of the ROBOT that may have caused the scoring action to occur.

ya know, I've been studying that section, but I guess having it pointed out to me by itself makes it a lot clearer! THANX!!!!

[Ragnarokae]

In reply to the trackball removal:

<G08> All TRACKBALL scores are awarded to the ALLIANCE associated with the scored TRACKBALL, independent of the ROBOT that may have caused the scoring action to occur.

[sporno]

what are the rules for the defence , yes rubbing is racing , but how hard can someone hit or " nudge"

[Ragnarokae]

See <G37> for defense rules.

It sounds like you can only accidently hit someone, or "nudge" when wanting to pass.

[sporno]

yes , but I wonder what the limits are , if you remember in AIM HIGH , there was robot carnage , this game you have to have bumpers , so what are the limits on pushing and shoving , can someone really play defence aside from just giving someone a " nudge"

[Ragnarokae]

<G37> a. High speed accidental collisions are likely to occur during the MATCH, and are an expected part of the game. However, high-speed intentional ramming is not acceptable and will be penalized.

b. Contact within the BUMPER ZONE is generally acceptable.

c. Contact outside of the BUMPER ZONE is generally not acceptable, and will result in a PENALTY. The offending ROBOT may be disqualified from the MATCH if the offense is particularly egregious or if it results in substantial damage to another ROBOT. However, incidental contact outside of the BUMPER ZONE will not be penalized.


It seems as if you can hit someone else as hard as you want, as long as it's on the bumper, and as long as you don't seem to be aiming for them (ramming).

[Kingsmen]

Posting in response to the color ball question. If you look at the scoring chart regardless of ball color in hybrid period. You get 8 points per trackball knocked off of overpass. The rule your refering to should only apply to balls during the control period. Thats if your on the blue team and knock a red teams ball past the finish line during the match the red team gets the 2 points for the ball. It's real confusing because you could take that scorring chart either way.

[Ragnarokae]

<G08> All TRACKBALL scores are awarded to the ALLIANCE associated with the scored TRACKBALL, independent of the ROBOT that may have caused the scoring action to occur.

<G09> During the HYBRID PERIOD, each TRACKBALL that is removed from the OVERPASS (i.e. completely removed from its initial TARGET LOCATION and not in contact with any portions of the OVERPASS) at the end of the HYBRID PERIOD will earn 8 points.

You get 8 points per trackball OF YOUR COLOR that is knocked off in Hyrbrid mode.

[Matthew2c4u]

Originally Posted by Ragnarokae

<G08> All TRACKBALL scores are awarded to the ALLIANCE associated with the scored TRACKBALL, independent of the ROBOT that may have caused the scoring action to occur.

<G09> During the HYBRID PERIOD, each TRACKBALL that is removed from the OVERPASS (i.e. completely removed from its initial TARGET LOCATION and not in contact with any portions of the OVERPASS) at the end of the HYBRID PERIOD will earn 8 points.

You get 8 points per trackball OF YOUR COLOR that is knocked off in Hyrbrid mode.

But doesnt G09 imply that during the hybrid period G08 does not apply?
And per this chart on the rules

note summarized

[sarcasticmadnes]

Question about this year's game. Even though they didn't give us a camera this year, does anyone know whether or not we can use it this year? Thanks.

[LordTalps]

Originally Posted by Ragnarokae

<G08> All TRACKBALL scores are awarded to the ALLIANCE associated with the scored TRACKBALL, independent of the ROBOT that may have caused the scoring action to occur.

<G09> During the HYBRID PERIOD, each TRACKBALL that is removed from the OVERPASS (i.e. completely removed from its initial TARGET LOCATION and not in contact with any portions of the OVERPASS) at the end of the HYBRID PERIOD will earn 8 points.

You get 8 points per trackball OF YOUR COLOR that is knocked off in Hyrbrid mode.

I might just be losing it today, but I don't like the phrase "scored trackball". Does the process of taking a trackball off of the overpass consider the trackball "scored"? Are the points being awarded because a trackball was taken off, or because your trackball was taken off? If the latter, I don't know how a team is going to make it around the corner of the wall, knock over the other ball without breaking the 6 foot height limit, and do it deterministically so they don't knock over the wrong ball on accident and give the other team 8 points. Seems incredibly hard to do, especially with other robots more than plausibly in the way.

[jgannon]

Originally Posted by sarcasticmadnes

Question about this year's game. Even though they didn't give us a camera this year, does anyone know whether or not we can use it this year? Thanks.

You'll want to look at the Parts Use flowchart on the last page of section 8 of the manual. Because it is still available COTS from IFI, and it is under the cost limits, I would say that it will be allowed.