OVERDRIVE Rules/Scoring Questions

[Kyle_Solo]

So if the other alliance knocks your ball off in a counter-clockwise direction (when you are going for the 12 points) you get 8 points instead?

[Ragnarokae]

Originally Posted by Matthew2c4u

well, shows i need to read the booklet more
So do u think that you can take the ball and bump it hard with your robot over the overpass, or do you think that u cant use powerful throwing mechanisms for safety reasons, is there a height limit on the field, is it to dangerous to throw the trackball i think the robots could take damage from a flying trackball there pretty heavy to fall from a big height.etc

I don't think that there is anything in the rules saying we can't throw... but it would take a powerful robot to do that. I mean, the ball is 10 lbs...

I'll recheck the rules though. Just for you. (JK)

[Ragnarokae]

Originally Posted by Kyle_Solo

So if the other alliance knocks your ball off in a counter-clockwise direction (when you are going for the 12 points) you get 8 points instead?

Yep. At least it seems that way.

[Kyle_Solo]

Originally Posted by Matthew2c4u

is it to dangerous to throw the trackball i think the robots could take damage from a flying trackball there pretty heavy to fall from a big height.etc

They mentioned making sure your robot was robust enough and even showed a falling ball damaging a bot in the animation, so I think it would be fine to shoot a trackball.

[Matthew2c4u]

Thank you, But you know they also haven't released the safety regulations which may include factors about robot safety from the track balls during the match.
Because throwing the big trackball could be dangerous, we dropped it from 6 feet it bounces pretty well almost achieved its full original height. Which brings up bouncing the ball over there hurdle.

[Laaba 80]

Originally Posted by Ragnarokae

Now I have a question of my own. During the Hybrid phase, could you remove the ball from the overpass before you cross the finish line and then hurdle the ball?

No, you cannot do that

<G12> A TRACKBALL must CROSS a LANE MARKER before it can score for the first time by
HURDLING or CROSSING its FINISH LINE.

[Ragnarokae]

Originally Posted by Ragnarokae

I don't think that there is anything in the rules saying we can't throw... but it would take a powerful robot to do that. I mean, the ball is 10 lbs...

I'll recheck the rules though. Just for you. (JK)

The only objection that I could find is that it might be deemed as an unsafe operation of the robot.

<S01> If at any time a ROBOT'S operation or design is deemed unsafe, it will receive a PENALTY and be disabled for the remainder of the MATCH. If the safety violation is due to the ROBOT design, the Head Referee has the option to not allow the ROBOT back onto the TRACK until the design has been corrected. An example of unsafe operation would be uncontrolled motion that cannot be stopped by the drivers.

[Ragnarokae]

Originally Posted by Kyle_Solo

They mentioned making sure your robot was robust enough and even showed a falling ball damaging a bot in the animation, so I think it would be fine to shoot a trackball.

I would say that "falling" and "throwing" are very different.

[Taylor]

I would say that robots are meant to throw trackballs. In the animation, one bot looked like a catapult; a robot can't be in contact with the ball when it scores (either by land or by air); bumpers and robustness are mandatory, and trackballs that leave the playing field are reintroduced ASAP without penalty. I'd say the GDC are expecting some high-flying trackballs.
On the other hand, I don't think we'll be designing a trebuchet that fires from a distance of 20'....

[abeD]

I had another rules/strategy question:

Your not allowed to block people and impede traffic but can you go full speed and make yourself the width of the track much like they do in real racing (nascar formula 1, etc), and make someone make a move to pass you..From the rules I guess you can't but if this is a race that is a legitimate racing strategy.

[pakratt1991]

I says that you can not extend past a height of six feet in your opponents Home Stretch, so how are you supposed to get your color ball of their overpass?

Rule <G36>

HOME STRETCH Height Restriction – ROBOTS in the HOME STRETCH of the opposing
ALLIANCE can not be more than 6 feet tall. A PENALTY will be assigned for each
infraction.

also
Rule <G22>

Direction Of Traffic – ROBOTS must proceed around the TRACK in a counter-clockwise
direction. Once a ROBOT has CROSSED a LANE MARKER or FINISH LINE, it shall not
break the plane of the line by moving in the clockwise direction. A PENALTY will be
assigned for each infraction.

So are you supposed to go passed your opponents finish line, turn around, and hit your ball off the overpass with out crossing the plane of the Finish Line? The robot in the animation extends past the 6 foot height limit to reach the ball.

[Laaba 80]

Take an intentional penalty??

[Dizzy_Lizzy]

so a robot cannot posses a track ball while it is being scored? For instance could a robot carry a ball over the finish line? or simply push it? To confirm it cannot be touching the track ball When it crosses the line in order to get the 4 points (2 for the ball 2 for the bot).

[pakratt1991]

Originally Posted by Dizzy_Lizzy

so a robot cannot posses a track ball while it is being scored? For instance could a robot carry a ball over the finish line? or simply push it? To confirm it cannot be touching the track ball When it crosses the line in order to get the 4 points (2 for the ball 2 for the bot).

Correct, your robot my not be in possession of the track ball when you cross the finish line for the track ball to give you an additional two points.

[ewankoff]

Originally Posted by Dizzy_Lizzy

so a robot cannot posses a track ball while it is being scored? For instance could a robot carry a ball over the finish line? or simply push it? To confirm it cannot be touching the track ball When it crosses the line in order to get the 4 points (2 for the ball 2 for the bot).

Originally Posted by pakratt1991

Correct, your robot my not be in possession of the track ball when you cross the finish line for the track ball to give you an additional two points.

actually im pretty sure you can't be touching the ball at all when passing over the finish line. I pulled this general rule of thumb from the rule: the ball must touch the ground or another robot after crossing the finish line to be scored be scored.