What the heck is going on????

[EricH]

Which rules do you say are faulty? We'll answer better if we know which rules.

[Kyle Love]

there is a rule that says you cant extend higher than 6 feet in your opponent's home stretch...but then you can't get the ball off of the overpass

I believe that is the un-technical rule they want clarified.

[David Brinza]

OK, how do you legally remove your ball from your opponent's overpass?

That's a "homework" problem for our team.

[yodameister]

One way that I saw is to "punch" the ball from below it. The bottom of the ball is at 71" from the bottom of the floor. With a well placed impact on the ball with a pneumatic cylinder, the ball should pop out of its resting place.

[daftpunk79]

maybe you could just pop the ball out and as long as you dont stay in the same place with whatever you used sticking straight up in the air...its legal?????

[David Brinza]

Originally Posted by yodameister

One way that I saw is to "punch" the ball from below it. The bottom of the ball is at 71" from the bottom of the floor. With a well placed impact on the ball with a pneumatic cylinder, the ball should pop out of its resting place.

Its a very "squishy" ball, with only 1" max penetration I think you'd be lucky to move it a few inches from its resting place, not to mention getting the ball's CG outside of the rail (at least hitting it from the bottom). It's prototype testing time (unless you prefer to "do the math").

[daftpunk79]

what if you use a sort of spring action?

[neutrino15]

to not being over 6' in your opponent's home stretch, i say:

[daftpunk79]

you mean use that to pick it up from the other side of the divider????

[David Brinza]

Extending your robot arm (appendage) across the opponent's finish line from the other side of the overpass most likely violates rule <G36>.

BTW, I noticed that there's a related thread on this subject:

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...threadid=60767

A moderator might step in and merge the discussion...

[daftpunk79]

i only started this thread to find out exactly how many rules we're having prob. with and how many i need to discuss with my mentors monday.....then it got to this.

[David Brinza]

Originally Posted by neutrino15

to not being over 6' in your opponent's home stretch, i say:

Lot's of discussion going on about this. In defense of the animator, the rules are probably in flux until the last minute before the manual is released, but the animation is completed earlier...GDC will likely resolve this in Update #1

[daftpunk79]

its still confusing and frustrating..........

[David Brinza]

Originally Posted by daftpunk79

its still confusing and frustrating..........

Well, you've only got six more weeks of confusion and frustration before the robot goes in the box.

The rules will get clarified in the next few days, don't worry - be happy!!

[Spylake]

I can think of several solutions.

1. Cross line and pop it back wards.
2. Leave it in place and collect 12 points.
3. Take the penalty
4. Use the other ball to bump it. The rule says only the ROBOT can not exceed 6 feet.
5. Gentleman's agreement with the opposition to put all balls in play
6. Ed on our team pointed out that if your wheel contact point is over the line you are no longer in their home stretch and can reach back and tap it.

Maybe the rule is intentional and won't be changed.