Another Violation in the Animation?

[Tottanka]

Ok, it this picture:

http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=penaltymu4.jpg

<R16> Once the MATCH has started, the ROBOT may assume a PLAYING CONFIGURATION
that exceeds the size dimensions specified in Rule <R11>. While in the PLAYING
CONFIGURATION, the ROBOT may expand up to a maximum horizontal dimension of 80
inches (e.g. all parts of the ROBOT must fit within an imaginary 80-inch-diameter upright
cylinder). There are no height limits for a ROBOT in its PLAYING CONFIGURATION at any
time after the start of the MATCH other than those specified in Rule <G36> about not
exceeding the maximum permitted height while in the opponent’s HOME STRETCH.

The blue huge robot obviously extends over the "Imagginary" 80'' diameter circle.

Talk it up =]

[Petey]

Originally Posted by Tottanka

Ok, it this picture:

http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=penaltymu4.jpg

The blue huge robot obviously extends over the "Imagginary" 80'' diameter circle.

Talk it up =]

Yes, I think this may have been Dave taking a bit of artistic license. Not so much rule ambiguity here however.

[Tottanka]

By the way, all those problems would have been probebly solved if only we had the final score of the game in the animation.
Then we could have known aout penalties recieved for any violation and deduct conclusions.
Does anybody know why dont we have the final score this year?

[Daniel_LaFleur]

Originally Posted by Tottanka

Ok, it this picture:

http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=penaltymu4.jpg




The blue huge robot obviously extends over the "Imagginary" 80'' diameter circle.

Talk it up =]

It's not an 80" dia. circle ... it's a 80" dia. upright cylinder ... A robot outside of the opponents "home stretch" can be as tall as it wants.

That robot may actually be "in spec.".

[Tottanka]

Originally Posted by Daniel_LaFleur

It's not an 80" dia. circle ... it's a 80" dia. upright cylinder ... A robot outside of the opponents "home stretch" can be as tall as it wants.

That robot may actually be "in spec.".

I was not talking about its height, but about its length extenssion of the arm.

[Tomasz Bania]

Originally Posted by Tottanka

By the way, all those problems would have been probebly solved if only we had the final score of the game in the animation.
Then we could have known aout penalties recieved for any violation and deduct conclusions.
Does anybody know why dont we have the final score this year?

Because you wouldn't easily see how many times each robot went around the track, but it should have been included nonetheless.

Tomasz Bania

[Boron + Z]

There's something else wrong with this picture. The blue robot is breaking the red finish line plane from the blue home stretch. It's not breaking the 6 foot high rule, but it is techinically crossing a line in a clockwise direction. Infraction/penalty?

[jgannon]

Originally Posted by Boron + Z

There's something else wrong with this picture. The blue robot is breaking the red finish line plane from the blue home stretch. It's not breaking the 6 foot high rule, but it is techinically crossing a line in a clockwise direction. Infraction/penalty?

I'm inclined to agree with you. Though it is clearly breaking the 80" rule (the ball is 40", the robot is 38", and there's plenty of space in between), I would venture that this is also a penalty per <G22>. What Dave had in mind of how the game works is clearly quite a bit different from how it came out on paper. I'm really interested to see which interpretation is correct.

[Matthew2c4u]

Originally Posted by Tottanka

Ok, it this picture:

http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=penaltymu4.jpg




The blue huge robot obviously extends over the "Imagginary" 80'' diameter circle.

Talk it up =]

Its a cylinder. but i do see your point, however the spirit of the rule is that it has to start small then i can get as huge as it wants.

[GBIT]

Originally Posted by Matthew2c4u

Its a cylinder. but i do see your point, however the spirit of the rule is that it has to start small then i can get as huge as it wants.

no, at no point in the match can it be larger than 80" wide in that cylinder.

[Joe Ross]

Don't forget that the bulldozer robot violtates <G18>

[Rafi Ahmed]

Does the blue multi jointed robot only get 6 points for hurdling the ball? Because its is supposed to be awarded 2 from <G10> then 6 from <G11> but it is touching the ball when the ball crosses the finish line. So it only gets 6?

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Joe Ross

Don't forget that the bulldozer robot violtates <G18>

No, it doesn't. It has a long post extending up for the flag. If that post ends above 38", it's legal. (Now, it might violate <R17>, but that's another story.)

[robotchibi]

um i'm just new here so i might not know but why whould this be important to the game or is this just to review the rules or just for the sake of arguments

[Elgin Clock]

Originally Posted by robotchibi

um i'm just new here so i might not know but why whould this be important to the game or is this just to review the rules or just for the sake of arguments

It is bringing up discussion of the rules, which is always good, and the animation is NEVER a true definition of the game and will always have some flaws no matter how great it is. (The animation does not get updates throughout the season, whereas the Manual will, meaning The Manual is the governing document of our game, not the animation.)

I am one of the ones to agree with this post below as most of us are.

Originally Posted by Petey

I think this may have been Dave taking a bit of artistic license.

The 2007 animation had at least one uncalled penalty as well, so it's just a good study in who can find them and what not.

Also, Dave does this in his spare time over his Winter Vacation as a reference so we should all be greatful for this added resource no matter how many flaws we can sit here and pick out of it.


<rant>
Back in my day (Pre-2003) we had no animation of the game, and we liked the game anyways! LOL
</rant>

Oh, and we asked a ton of questions back then as well, so it's good at least some things never change.