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Re: How do you get your other ball
I think we reay need clarification on G36 and R16. the hight limit in the oponents home stretch. even the animation seemed to violate both rules as the red bot is obviosely much to hig for being in the blu home stretch. see animation video at 1min53sec or the attached picture of it. lets see the Q&A and team update. Team 451 - Jens |
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Re: How do you get your other ball
There's a possibility that your interpretation of the intent is correct, but as it's worded right now, there is no room for interpretation. Reaching from the other side as you describe would garner you a ten point penalty. Maybe this will change next week, but assigning some kind of intent to the rules when none is given only confuses the issue.
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well some near guaranteed changes, or at the least, clarification of the rules should definitely be in the near future...hopefully
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I am pretty sure you'll be able to knock the trackball off of the rails from beyond the opponents finish line without crossing it, since it will hang over the line.
The difficulty will be ensuring you are beyond the line before attempting it, being lined up enough, and being able to apply enough force to the Trackball |
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you could get the ball while not beeing in the opposing side's home strech zone.
You cross their finish line, go back dropping the ball/grabbing it and there you have it. This might be intentional by the GDC, not a mistake like many of us hurried to asume. The mistake though, is in the Game Animation, which means that Lavery is still messing with our heads! |
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Chuck proposed that. You can't recross any lines or even break the planes unless you have gone a full lap. So, you cross the finish line and then hit the ball. You now run the risk of getting a 10-pointer for breaking the plane.
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But it might jube be woeth it in order to get the ball dropped and usable for Hurdling.
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The finish line is directly under the 2nd bar. As long as whatever you hit the trackball with is vertical and is outside the bar, then you have not broken the plane. The ball will overhang the bar and thus can be hit and knocked off the rails without penalty. |
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) ... I'd be more concerned with a portion of the robot hanging over the finish line while we extend above the 6' high restriction. |
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I have a concern about this situation as well.
The animation did show a robot knocking the ball off the far side, from its OWN side of the field, by reaching over the center line. (I can't believe that this is what they intended .) I hope they change the rule to allow violations of the 6 foot rule in Hybrid mode. |
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We noticed the the equation above used numbers assuming the ball was on center with the pipes. this is not true seeing that the ball rests on the top of the pipes. We found the hang to be (assuming the the 6.5' overpass is on center with the pipes) it would hang only 1.5 inches below the 6' legal limit. If the 6.5' is at the bottom of the pipes it would hang only .67 inches from the 6' limit. this is assuming the the ball in of 40" diameter. here is the diagram: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/at...6&d=1199655203 |
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The animation showed the opposing alliance knocking off the opponents track ball at the end of the match from the other lane. Could you do the same at the beginning of the match to your track ball?
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Suppose you clear the finish line then raise something to contact the part of the ball that overhangs the overpass. If this appendage of the robot contacts the pipe supporting the ball, have you broken the plane? Would this be a violation of <G22> even if the robot base is not moving in a clockwise direction? Lot's of stuff for FIRST Q&A to address on this topic...
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