End Game Confusion

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I'm kind of confused about the scoring regarding the end game.
If you've placed a trackball on the overpass and it stays there when the buzzer sounds, that's 12 points.
But what about when the opponent knocks it over?
Would you get the points for hurdling still? So instead of getting 12 for having it on the overpass would you get the 8 for the hurdle?
Definition of a hurdle: When a TRACKBALL CROSSES a FINISH LINE while passing above the OVERPASS and then contacts either the floor or another ROBOT before re-contacting the originating ROBOT.
Rule <G08> says that the scoring robot's color doesn't matter, just the color of the ball. So would that mean you can get the hurdle points if you touched it after it was knocked down?

On an entirely different side note, Dean Kamen "lied" to us during the kickoff. He said he would be the last one we would hear before we heard the game. Instead we heard from the two IR people, Woodie, and maybe one more(forgot who though)