End Game Confusion

[EricH]

Originally Posted by TomZ

I have another questabout the end game. If you only knock down one ball in the beginning and at the end the other is still on the overpass do you still get the points, even though you didn't place it there?

No difference is made in the rules.

[MGoelz]

Originally Posted by EricH

No difference is made in the rules.

Exactly. Here is the rule. It doesn't mention how it got there, simply that it is there.

<G14> When the MATCH ends, each TRACKBALL is at least partially supported by the OVERPASS and not in contact with any ROBOT of the same ALLIANCE will earn a 12 point bonus.

[Ian Curtis]

While the title to this thread isn't overtly descriptive, I think the information contained within it is. The situation as I understand it is as follows:

BLUEABOT proceeds around the BLUE FINISH LINE with a BLUE TRACKBALL as the clock counts down. As the end game approaches, he places it on the OVERPASS (above the BLUE FINISH LINE). Then, he continues around the track, desperately trying for another lap, thinking the RED alliance will not have time to descore. Well, REDABOT has other plans, and displaces the BLUE TRACKBALL in such a way that it CROSSES the BLUE FINISH LINE, and proceeds counterclockwise around the track.

As I understand it, while the BLUE ALLIANCE no longer recieves a 12 point bonus, they will recieve an 8 point score for the HURDLE. So the RED ALLIANCE has achieved only a 4 point swing.

If REDABOT was to displace the BLUE TRACKBALL in such a fashion that it bounced off, backwards (aka in a clockwise direction), then there would be no hurdle per the definition of CROSSING, correct?

This could make the end game very pins and needles if robots are not good at knocking balls out in one direction.

[Ragnarokae]

Originally Posted by TomZ

I have another questabout the end game. If you only knock down one ball in the beginning and at the end the other is still on the overpass do you still get the points, even though you didn't place it there?

No, you can only get the points in Hybrid mode. Look at the scoring guide in the manual for questions about points.

[jrdude]

Originally Posted by Laaba 80

Dean also said "Overdrive" while he was talking about the homework, and he said that it was not a hint.
Joey

He did say that

[Ragnarokae]

Originally Posted by iCurtis

BLUEABOT proceeds around the BLUE FINISH LINE with a BLUE TRACKBALL as the clock counts down. As the end game approaches, he places it on the OVERPASS (above the BLUE FINISH LINE). Then, he continues around the track, desperately trying for another lap, thinking the RED alliance will not have time to descore. Well, REDABOT has other plans, and displaces the BLUE TRACKBALL in such a way that it CROSSES the BLUE FINISH LINE, and proceeds counterclockwise around the track.

As I understand it, while the BLUE ALLIANCE no longer recieves a 12 point bonus, they will recieve an 8 point score for the HURDLE. So the RED ALLIANCE has achieved only a 4 point swing.

If REDABOT was to displace the BLUE TRACKBALL in such a fashion that it bounced off, backwards (aka in a clockwise direction), then there would be no hurdle per the definition of CROSSING, correct?

This could make the end game very pins and needles if robots are not good at knocking balls out in one direction.

You can go clockwise within the current quadrant that you are in, so the REDABOT could be past the BLUE finish line, yet still turn around and knock it back CLOCKWISE.

But I do agree that it could get very tight at the end.

[Woody1458]

Originally Posted by SU 39

No in rule <G11> it says you get 8 points, 2 for the BALL crossing the finish line, and 6 for the act of going over the top. So a hurdle with a robot would get you 10, 6 for the ball going over the overpass, 2 for going over the line, and 2 for the robot. The hurdle is just referred to as 8 points because it is impossible to go over the overpass without crossing over the line on the ground.

This confusing rule has been restated just giving 8 points for hurdle, and none for crossing line from the Update #1 if my interpretation is correct. same point amount but less rule refrences.