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The physics behind trackball inflation
Okay, it starts with a simple question:
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On buoyant force: basically, the scale doesn't measure extra weight because when you put extra air inside the trackball, you're causing it to displace the same volume of air that would otherwise be weighing down on the scale anyway. The scale doesn't care if the air is inside the trackball or outside it. THEREFORE, the only way inflating your trackball can cause it to weigh more is if the trackball actually contains more air mass-wise than the volume of air it displaced. For this to happen, the air in the trackball must be at a greater pressure than the outside air. Pressure and amount of gas are directly proportional thanks to the ideal gas law (pV = nRT, where p is pressure and n is amount of gas), so if your trackball is inflated to twice atmospheric pressure, it will contain twice the amount of gas and thus twice the extra mass. Since you now have 2 masses of air, the weight is twice as much (about 3 lbs) whereas the upward buoyant force (based on the volume of air displaced) remains the same at about 1.5 lbs. Therefore the net added weight (downward force) would be about 1.5 lbs. There's a pretty good walkthrough expressing these principles with a similar situation at this site: http://rabi.phys.virginia.edu/105/2006/ps5s.html So, the gist of this argument is that:
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Re: The physics behind trackball inflation
Sounds pretty good to me, I don't claim to be an ball pressure-weight expert, but I have do have a degree in physics and have taught physics for 14 years and would give you an A for your presentation of the situation. You could've have got an A+, but you missed the part about the difference in composition of the gas inside the ball and the surrounding air (the compressor may add a few dirty molecules). But seriously - you summed it up nicely!!
We weighed our ball, inflated to 40" in size, and it came out to about 7.2 lbs. After reading the manual, it said it will weigh 10 pounds. I thought our scale was off or needed to be calibrated, but I think your findings support our scale's reading. |
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Re: The physics behind trackball inflation
well in theory with the added weight of the skin any air on the inside would be compressed past 1 atm (~14.7 psi) (PROOF: unplugging a partially inflated ball will still deflate signaling that the interior pressure was greater then the exterior.) so any inflation would add mass, but should be negligable till ball reaches maximum volume, dictated by the material's elastic constant.
(I always love myself a good debate )Last edited by Woody1458 : 09-01-2008 at 02:58. Reason: added proof |
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Re: The physics behind trackball inflation
The pressure cs. diameter function is probably highly non-linear once you reach the size of the nylon and start trying to expand that. All the same we whipped out a ball pump to hook up to the trackball after it was inflated and it read something less than 2 psi. Probably 1. So there will be some additional weight. I imagine the manufacturing variances will compound the weight fluctuations from air pressure with slightly thicker, heavier balls requiring even more air to inflate. Overall, though, I wouldn't expect for than +/- .25 lb variation out to 3 SDs
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Re: The physics behind trackball inflation
The mass of the air inside the ball could make a difference in a design that "shoots" the ball....that's a significant added load....that I had not thought of!
thanks for the lesson! |
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Re: The physics behind trackball inflation
i just fill it up ,weigh my self, then weigh myself while holding the ball and take the diffrence... easy math for us k.i.s.s people
... then to double chech take a string and take the circumfrence and divide by pi.... easy enough to the point of i have a 10lb 40 in diamater trackball ![]() |
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Re: The physics behind trackball inflation
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