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Re: Can you "flip" your robot to give you a 60" width?

ya you can do this, people have done it mutiple times in the past for several different reasons.

The best examples that I know of are:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/14204
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/21751

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Re: Can you "flip" your robot to give you a 60" width?

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ya you can do this, people have done it mutiple times in the past for several different reasons.

The best examples that I know of are:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/14204
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/21751

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Re: Can you "flip" your robot to give you a 60" width?

Ya, that may be helpful, but our plan is perfect. If you got that to work properly for you that would be awesome.
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Re: Can you "flip" your robot to give you a 60" width?

I'm going to go ahead and have you file these TPS reports... errr... I ment go ahead and guess that one of two situations will occur:

Situation A:
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you will need to build two sets of bumpers:
1)on the 28"X38" base.
2)on the "real" base of your robot in the playing configuration.
Or situation B:
My logic tells me you only need to place standard bumpers for each drive base, so if the robot can move in two different position you would need a standard bumper for each position, but not for positions where the robot can not move.
you run the risk that if your mechanism fails and you can't flip, and you don't have bumpers, other robots might hit you.




this is just my logic and not an official FIRST answer!

This is definitely something for the Q&A, just so we know how they want us to do this exactly.... (us=FIRSTers... my team isn't going for this design since we want the most height for the overpass hurdeling...)


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Re: Can you "flip" your robot to give you a 60" width?

For about minutes today our team was thinking about "morphing" our robot. We would just kind of push the two sides out somehow then leave a space in the front. But we thought it would be too complicated to do. But you might be able to try that
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Re: Can you "flip" your robot to give you a 60" width?

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My logic tells me you only need to place standard bumpers for each drive base, so if the robot can move in two different position you would need a standard bumper for each position, but not for positions where the robot can not move.
Your logic agrees with what I see in the manual.

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...STANDARD BUMPERS must remain within the BUMPER ZONE when the ROBOT is resting on the floor in PLAYING CONFIGURATION.
A "flop-bot" isn't automatically in PLAYING CONFIGURATION before it flops. Section 8.2 DEFINITIONS of the manual has this to say:

"PLAYING CONFIGURATION - The physical configuration and orientation of the ROBOT while playing the game (i.e. after the MATCH has started, and the ROBOT has deployed mechanisms, moved away from the starting location, and/or interacted with the field, GAME PIECES, or other ROBOTS). This configuration is dynamic, and may change multiple times during the course of a single MATCH."
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Re: Can you "flip" your robot to give you a 60" width?

So, when you flip, your flag holder will stay up at 51 inches (R17), in other words, your robot will open up like a jacknife .
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