Team Update #2

[dez250]

Originally Posted by jgannon

Is there a typo in the weight in Team Update #2, too? The update says that the bladder is supposed to be 2500g, whereas the one in your link is only 2200g.

I noticed that after i posted the link. I am going to try to verify that the bladder was not different than this one and repost when i can verify correctly.

[cbudrecki]

Why can't FIRST provide a manufacturer and Part #? This would ensure that everyone gets the proper ball. I did notice last weekend that there was a 40" ball and a 120cm ball mentioned, perhaps you buy the 120cm and only fill it to 40" (i.e., just enough to fill the cover)?

[Richard Wallace]

Originally Posted by tb222

Why can't FIRST provide a manufacturer and Part #? This would ensure that everyone gets the proper ball. I did notice last weekend that there was a 40" ball and a 120cm ball mentioned, perhaps you buy the 120cm and only fill it to 40" (i.e., just enough to fill the cover)?

FIRST already ensured that every team received the proper ball, by including one in the kit.

[SSMike]

I personally like the new <G36> because it doesn't incur a penalty on a robot that has been disabled and cannot move. A penalty would just add insult to injury.

[Sunshine]

Originally Posted by SSMike

I personally like the new <G36> because it doesn't incur a penalty on a robot that has been disabled and cannot move. A penalty would just add insult to injury.

But, doesn't that mean that if a team panics and forgets to push the E-Stop Button they get penalized

[Pat McCarthy]

Originally Posted by Sunshine

But, doesn't that mean that if a team panics and forgets to push the E-Stop Button they get penalized

If it is obvious that there is a problem to the refs, and your team is freaking out, the refs will most likely remind you about the E-stop if at all possible. It may come as a surprise, but refs really don't want to give penalties if they are preventable.

[Bharat Nain]

Robots can be disabled from the field also. I am sure if it is a safety hazard someone behind the table will pull the plug.

[SSMike]

Originally Posted by Pat McCarthy

If it is obvious that there is a problem to the refs, and your team is freaking out, the refs will most likely remind you about the E-stop if at all possible. It may come as a surprise, but refs really don't want to give penalties if they are preventable.

[/notsarcasm]Yeah refs are usually very good at reminding you of these things to prevent penalties.[not sarcasm]
I don't see them having to remind too many teams though. If you tip over and can't go back, the drivers should then know what to do.

[Lucas]

On my think, the challenge become bigger! I was afraid to hold a trackball of 40"! So now I'm desperate!!!!rsrs

As higher the task, it will be better!

Good luck to everybody!

[Optimizer]

OK, so it's likely "102 cm", and not "120 cm". But am I remembering wrong, or wasn't it supposed to weigh 10 pounds? 2500g = 2.5kg = 5.5 pounds. Is the cover 4.5 pounds?

[Branden Ghena]

Be sure to add the weight of air. It seems negligible, but at that size the air could weigh about a pound.

[Optimizer]

Originally Posted by tawnos23

Be sure to add the weight of air. It seems negligible, but at that size the air could weigh about a pound.

I hadn't thought of that, but I don't think it applies. Archimedes principle, ya' know. Helium would actually subtract weight, for example. We're talking weight, not mass.

[Donut]

I must say I'm very dissapointed in the change to <G40>. Before an effective hybrid mode defense could be played by spacing robots out on the field so as to make it more difficult for opposing robots to navigatge, but opposing robots had a chance of getting through with some really clever programming (or good luck). Now any alliance can effectively limit their opponent to 32 points (3 robots crossing 2 lines and one knocked ball) by simply having all 3 drive forward for a second or two, with the defense only failing if one has enough pushing power to shove a robot a good 10 feet (not likely with many of this year's drivetrains geared for speed).

I wouldn't expect a good hybrid lap bot to get more than 8 points now, I was really looking forward to seeing at least one team pull off well beyond a full lap.

<G36> is a good add though, no sense in making an already disheartened team feel worse with the penalties.

[65_Xero_Huskie]

Originally Posted by Optimizer

OK, so it's likely "102 cm", and not "120 cm". But am I remembering wrong, or wasn't it supposed to weigh 10 pounds? 2500g = 2.5kg = 5.5 pounds. Is the cover 4.5 pounds?

You have to add the weight of air, And make sure you weigh ur ball if at all possible, because the balls do not all weigh the same

[SgtMillhouse648]

Originally Posted by Optimizer

OK, so it's likely "102 cm", and not "120 cm". But am I remembering wrong, or wasn't it supposed to weigh 10 pounds? 2500g = 2.5kg = 5.5 pounds. Is the cover 4.5 pounds?

That isn't how much the ball/bladder weighs, it is the weight of the PVC per cubic unit I believe. It's like the insulation in winter gear, 1000 gram thinsulate does not mean there are 1000 grams of thinsulate insulation in it. It is just the weight per cubic unit.