FRC too easy...we're done :)

[Guy Davidson]

70-90 points in a full field of robots? Without hybrid? I'm sorry my friend, but I'm going to have to disbelieve you. I also have to mention that using any parts machined, bought, or created before kickoff is illegal.

But eighty points? I can't see it. Assuming you can place the ball in the end, you'll need 68 more points. That's seven laps when hurdling, seventeen with herding, and 34 when just driving. If you hurdle, we're still talking about making at least seven laps (+ last one to plae the ball). To me, that means that in just over seventeen seconds, you guys can pick up a huge ball that will be bouncing around, nagotiate around five other robots and three other balls, and toss or lift the ball over the overpass. I'm sorry, but I just don't see that happening.

Surprise me. I'd love to see a team put up 80 points in the teleoperated mode. But I just don't see it happening. The most I'd believe a team can put up is 60 points (without Hybrid), and that's with six hurdled laps and placing the ball in the end.

Good luck.

[jee7s]

hmmm....80 points would be 10 laps in 2 minutes with a hurdle on every lap. So, that means 1 lap every 12 seconds. The distance around the track at its shortest dimension is about 70 feet (30 or so for each long side, and 5 or so for each sort side). That means a speed of about 6 feet per second with instant acceleration, perfect turns, and perfect action of the manipulator. Possible, but not likely in just 10 days (even for a team of pros).

Also, it sounds from your post that this light-speed development stems from a one year project. That sounds like minor tweaks to mechanisms or designs that existed before kickoff....hmmmm

-JEE

[=Martin=Taylor=]

Originally Posted by sumadin

Surprise me. I'd love to see a team put up 80 points in the teleoperated mode. But I just don't see it happening. The most I'd believe a team can put up is 60 points (without Hybrid), and that's with six hurdled laps and placing the ball in the end.

I agree. But two robots working together? Well... that’s another story... Imagine two robots just sitting on either side of the finish line. One robot hurdles, the other robot catches the ball and rolls it back over the finish line (without any part of the robot passing through the finish line of course). The hurdler picks up the ball again and repeats the process... BIG points.

[TheOtherGuy]

Originally Posted by Hachiban VIII

I agree. But two robots working together? Well... that’s another story... Imagine two robots just sitting on either side of the finish line. One robot hurdles, the other robot catches the ball and rolls it back over the finish line (without any part of the robot passing through the finish line of course). The hurdler picks up the ball again and repeats the process... BIG points.

That has, of course, been thought about by the GDC and has, of course, been made illegal (I'll try to find the rule in a second, something about the ball having to cross the opponents finish line before it crosses your own again)

[Brad Voracek]

Originally Posted by TheOtherGuy

That has, of course, been thought about by the GDC and has, of course, been made illegal (I'll try to find the rule in a second, something about the ball having to cross the opponents finish line before it crosses your own again)

Yeahh. when they were doing it in the game animation it was just to roll it back so he could get more points by placing it on top, you wouldn't get points for knocking that ball down again.

[danshaffer]

Yup. The ball must cross the other finish line before re-crossing its own for more points.

[synth3tk]

BUT, (correct me if I'm wrong) after it crosses the opponent's line, you can hand it over the middle to a team's robot. That's unless they changed the rules and I haven't noticed.

Also, there's no freakin' way on God's green earth that I would even think about believing your claims. Like mentioned before, it's plausible that you would have a box just for driving by now.

AND, lastly, I truly hope that you didn't use any chassis/drivetrain you fabricated before kick-off. It'll be very dissappointing to your team.

[Brad Voracek]

Originally Posted by blakcheez

BUT, (correct me if I'm wrong) after it crosses the opponent's line, you can hand it over the middle to a team's robot. That's unless they changed the rules and I haven't noticed.

Also, there's no freakin' way on God's green earth that I would even think about believing your claims. Like mentioned before, it's plausible that you would have a box just for driving by now.

AND, lastly, I truly hope that you didn't use any chassis/drivetrain you fabricated before kick-off. It'll be very dissappointing to your team.

Correct. I haven't seen anything that disallows this either.


... I'm not sure many people believe him. But it's always fun to go with the notion that someone isn't joking around and is pretty amazing! ;P

[dsm]

Forum + Anonymity = Rampant Exaggeration, if not outright Blatant Lying. Welcome to the internet, please enjoy your stay.

[synth3tk]

Originally Posted by dsm

Forum + Anonymity = Rampant Exaggeration, if not outright Blatant Lying. Welcome to the internet, please enjoy your stay.

....says the newbie with one post.

[Elgin Clock]

Originally Posted by dsm

Forum + Anonymity = Rampant Exaggeration, if not outright Blatant Lying. Welcome to the internet, please enjoy your stay.

Originally Posted by blakcheez

....says the newbie with one post.

Well in that case, check out the number of my posts.. and heed my warning:
Play nice kids!

Originally Posted by Brad Voracek

... I'm not sure many people believe him. But it's always fun to go with the notion that someone isn't joking around and is pretty amazing! ;P

If all you want is a robot to drive around in a circle and score points by crossing lines, I'm going to have to say I would actually this year (for the first time in my whole FIRST "career" of my 8th year in '08) tend to believe someone that said they have a "complete" robot.

Now, take that robot and practice, practice, practice... Throw in some chairs as obstacles... train alternate drivers..
Do other non-robot things...

You've achieved the mechanical task at hand, now start to build your team as well, and achieve the "I" in FIRST which is the "Inspiration".

Don't stop doing things as a team just because you've gone wild for 2 weeks (yes I would say that to.. it's a force of habit since we are in the 2nd week, and not just an oversight of the date we all started).

But anyways, now that you've built a Robot, go out and build a Team. Build a base for inspiring your community..

You are never really "done" with anything in FIRST.
There are way more tasks every year than building a robot..

Try starting some work on Dean's Homework... That will give you something to do in (at least) the next 4 weeks or so & beyond.

[Otaku]

Originally Posted by blakcheez

....says the newbie with one post.

I, with (admittedly less posts than you) more posts than he (since obviously you seem to be basing experience off of it) and more rep than both of you (which is like saying "I'm helpful-er") will agree with he for what he says is indeed, true.

[CzarValvador]

Dude, you could have just posted this in the other topic about the same thing. No?