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Re: Good to know: no time travel.

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Hmm lets see...

Does anyone remember a team coming out of the future and running into the rack? I know I don't, which should prove that time travel will not happen at any of the FIRST competitions that we remember, in this time line at least.

Maybe one of these days we'll get a flux capacitor in the KOP. I'm going to bet that would have some very strict rules on it.
Unless of course through time travel you create a new time line, not modify your own. Then you return to your original time line as you left it, only with one more alternate universe out there when when you left.
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Re: Good to know: no time travel.

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Unless of course through time travel you create a new time line, not modify your own. Then you return to your original time line as you left it, only with one more alternate universe out there when when you left.
But that deals with quantum phys-- ooh, shiny objects.

Think about it this way, though. We know that the Flux Capacitor works in one universe, and doesn't cross through them. We see this demonstrated when Doc writes that letter for Marty and Marty gets it hundreds of years later or whatever. Either the person achieves their task in this universe and falls into a paradox, or they find a way to open a wormhole to another universe where they complete their task, but they don't get the satisfaction of people in their home universe knowing what they did. Also, going from universe to universe damages the integrity of the space/time continuum, if I recall correctly.

Also, I don't think you'd want to create a NEW universe. That might be kind of hard. Now, you COULD access a parallel universe, which would be a much more viable and achievable option. In that case, I'll let you use my garage (I'm convinced there's a quantum hole somewhere, my mom hit her rear view mirror on the edge of the door, some plastic flew off and then the chip disappeared and the mirror was fine).
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Getting 1.21 jigawatts of energy would be considerably difficult considering Watts is a measurement of power
Indeed, but it isn't that hard to get 1.21 gigawatts of power either. All you need is an 80" OD cylinder with 1" walls that weighs 120lbs and spin it up to a measly ten million rpm. The cylinder is then storing about 10 gigajoules of energy... just deliver that energy in the right time and you have 1.21 gigawatts of power... By an amazing coincidence that flywheel seems to follow the weight limit and <R16> rules; I had better get working on this, don't want to get left in the future.
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Re: Good to know: no time travel.

There's also the theory that the mechanics of time travel would erase any knowledge you may posses about the future, sorta like a cosmic safety switch to prevent paradoxes...

Oh, and don't forget, only living organic material would survive the journey, so you'd better not travel to nationals... It'd be pretty embarrassing to show up in the middle of the finals on the overpass stark naked...
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Indeed, but it isn't that hard to get 1.21 gigawatts of power either. All you need is an 80" OD cylinder with 1" walls that weighs 120lbs and spin it up to a measly ten million rpm. The cylinder is then storing about 10 gigajoules of energy... just deliver that energy in the right time and you have 1.21 gigawatts of power... By an amazing coincidence that flywheel seems to follow the weight limit and <R16> rules; I had better get working on this, don't want to get left in the future.
Good luck to you with this project. You're going to need it.

Besides the obvious challenges of accelerating, stabilizing, and recovering energy from this 80" hula-hoop-of-death, you'll need to find a material that can withstand the hoop stress without flying apart .

Also, since the surface of your hoop will be cooking along at a just over one meter per microsecond, you'll need to refigure your energy calcs to account for special relativity. That speed is significant with respect to c.

Assuming you overcome all of the challenges, please don't present this device for inspection at a FIRST event -- good volunteers are hard enough to find without having to worry that one of our inspectors might fall into a wormhole.
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Re: Good to know

Quote "Bah. Go to the future, find out next year's game, and astound everyone as you decode the clues."

Clever! Devilishy clever!

Still, I don't know why you would need to go through the trouble to make your robot go through time (that requires dealing with FIRST regulations). If you have the technology, just make a team time machine for everyday use - you get the benefit and all that you have to do is deal with the US safety codes (or else conduct it in secret, which is in my mind a much better choice).
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