Registration Delayed

[Elgin Clock]

Originally posted by Matt Leese


Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but no it didn't. The Gulf War was in 1991. FIRST started in 1992. So FIRST has never faced a war. Overall, the severity of the war should depend on whther or not FIRST should continue. If we're talking something on the level of WW2, then no as all the engineering skill should be devoted to fighting the war. If we're talking something more on teh level of the Gulf War (and I think we are), then there's no reason to as FIRST doens't detract from the ability of the country to fight the war.

Matt

If FIRST started in 1992 then why was this year the 10th anniversary? The shirts that we got at epcot say 10th anniversary of FIRST. Is this an error on your part or am I missing something?

[Joe Ross]

Elgin,

Its easiest to see if you count with your fingers. '92 was the first year, '93 was the second year ... 2000 was the ninth year, 2001 was the tenth year, 2002 will be the 11th year.

[Stacy]

I don't know how to quote something but about planes flying over NYC and Washington DC:
I don't know how true it is that if they fly that close to the cities they will be shot down, b/c I think that all the NY area airports are open, but I live about 30 miles east of Manhattan, and the ONLY planes I've heard in the last week have been 2 fighter jets (i don't know what kind...) and 3 helicopters. It's been VERY quiet here.
I haven't had a chance to post anything since last week, but if anyone lost anyone during this tragedy my condolences go out to you, and NEVER forget that we will unite and over come all this. I'm sure everyone's heard that all the New Yorkers have come together like never before, and that is NOT just the news, it really has happened, and I'm proud, so we will get through this.

[patrickrd]

Originally posted by Karl


I hate to be a party-crasher, but here I am to correct you. Though you may be correct about the Gulf War thingy (Which if I recall correctly, wasn't actually a war) the fact is that FIRST has survived through many, many wars. It would be more accurate for you to state that "FIRST has never faced a declared war in which the United States have participated"

The last "war", as you use the term, was World War II... Even the actions the USA is planning is not officially a war, contrary to the terminoligy being used by the executive branch of the government. I believe I heard the official name for this war is Operation Noble Eagle.

[patrickrd]

Originally posted by Joe Ross
Elgin,

Its easiest to see if you count with your fingers. '92 was the first year, '93 was the second year ... 2000 was the ninth year, 2001 was the tenth year, 2002 will be the 11th year.

not all of us have 11 fingers

[patrickrd]

Originally posted by Matt Ryan


If there is a war, there is a good possibility of the draft.

Wars actually stimulate the economy in the short-term. Long-term, unless the war is over soon, its not as good for the economy.

Currently ANY airplane that goes over Washington D.C. or NYC within a 25 mile radius will be blown out the sky by combat patrols.

The government has called up 50000 reservists for this operation. They will have to go through an additional 1,150,000 reservists before they can think about reinstating the draft.

[Carolyn Duncan]

Originally posted by patrickrd


The last "war", as you use the term, was World War II... Even the actions the USA is planning is not officially a war, contrary to the terminoligy being used by the executive branch of the government. I believe I heard the official name for this war is Operation Noble Eagle.

Since only Congress can declare war this isn't one, yet. From what I've picked up a declaration of war is in the works. I've also heard that the Taliban (sp?) is negotiating terms for extraditing Bin Laden. (Sorry y'all, I can't spell today.)

[Elgin Clock]

[quote]Originally posted by Joe Ross
Elgin,

Its easiest to see if you count with your fingers. '92 was the first year, '93 was the second year ... 2000 was the ninth year, 2001 was the tenth year, 2002 will be the 11th year. [/QUOTE


Dang Linear number scheme....always tripping me up!!!!

[Madison]

Originally posted by Stacy

I don't know how true it is that if they fly that close to the cities they will be shot down, b/c I think that all the NY area airports are open, but I live about 30 miles east of Manhattan, and the ONLY planes I've heard in the last week have been 2 fighter jets (i don't know what kind...) and 3 helicopters. It's been VERY quiet here.

Well, Islip-Macarthur has been operating a near normal levels (not that there's much traffic there to begin with). . . I'm not sure about JFK or LGA or Newark. . .

But, about the 25 mile limit; well, all of NYC's major airports are less than 25 miles away from Manhattan, as far as I know. The restrictions are a bit more complicated than that. Basically, though, it just means that they're not using the Hudson and East Rivers as approach corridors like they normally do. . . for those elsewhere in the country, those rivers are the bodies of water on either side of Manhattan, and planes usually line up along them while waiting to land at either JFK or LaGuardia.

[Bill Gold]

Registration was delayed again... this time it was pushed back to Wednesday Sept 26. It's on FIRST's site... Just thought I'd be the first one to post about that . Later.

[EddieMcD]

Ok, a list of wars (from my vast memory) that the USA has been in:

American Revolution (not a US war per se), War of 1812, Mexican War, Civil War (The Cofederate Revolution), Spanish-American War, World War 1, World War 2, Korean War, Vietnam War & Gulf War.

This is not including those minor Conflicts like in Kosovo. please, correct me if I missed anything or got something off.

[Bill Gold]

you missed the Filipino-American War... or Filipino Insurrection as it's referred to.

Also the "Cold War"

Do those count?

[Matt Ryan]

I saw a couple of fighter jets when I was in Falmouth yesterday. Someone said they were F-14 Tomcats.

The Cold War wasn't exactly a war, since it wasn't a hot war [or an actual physical conflict].

[EddieMcD]

you missed the Filipino-American War... or Filipino Insurrection as it's referred to.

That was a conflift, not a war. And there was no fighting (physically) during the Cold War.

[Carolyn Duncan]

Down here in florida the JAX navy base has had P3s, helos, and Tomcats out the last 2 days. There have been various "missions for them. They have been doing security missions, we've had bombs planted down here, and they have been doing water search and rescue. The airport has been sorta slow. Security at the football games is really tight too.