Go to Post ...some of our robots could use a proctologist - Scott Ritchie [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > FIRST > General Forum
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 22-01-2008, 16:16
chinckley chinckley is offline
Winner 2009 West Michigan District
FRC #1254 (Entropy)
Team Role: Teacher
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Rookie Year: 2003
Location: Lawrence, Michigan
Posts: 204
chinckley is a name known to allchinckley is a name known to allchinckley is a name known to allchinckley is a name known to allchinckley is a name known to allchinckley is a name known to all
Re: This years wheels

Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyB View Post
No, Andymark only supplies 6" wheels. You can see what they have at www.andymark.biz
Are there any limitations on wheels used?
__________________
2009 West Michigan District Winner
Thanks to Team 216 and Team 1918

2009 Traverse City Semifinalist
Thanks to Team 1596 and Team 47
2009 Traverse City UL Safety Award Winners

Attending 2009: West Michigan, Traverse City, & State
Reply With Quote
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 22-01-2008, 16:18
EricH's Avatar
Happy Birthday! EricH EricH is online now
New year, new team
FRC #1197 (Torbots)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Rookie Year: 2003
Location: SoCal
Posts: 19,784
EricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond repute
Re: This years wheels

Quote:
Originally Posted by chinckley View Post
Are there any limitations on wheels used?
No. COTS wheels typically don't cost anywhere near the $400 needed to make them illegal.
__________________
Past teams:
2003-2007: FRC0330 BeachBots
2008: FRC1135 Shmoebotics
2012: FRC4046 Schroedinger's Dragons

"Rockets are tricky..."--Elon Musk

Reply With Quote
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 22-01-2008, 16:19
Raul's Avatar Unsung FIRST Hero
Raul Raul is offline
Somewhat Useful Person
no team (Formerly - Wildstang)
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Rookie Year: 1996
Location: Greenville, TX
Posts: 599
Raul has a reputation beyond reputeRaul has a reputation beyond reputeRaul has a reputation beyond reputeRaul has a reputation beyond reputeRaul has a reputation beyond reputeRaul has a reputation beyond reputeRaul has a reputation beyond reputeRaul has a reputation beyond reputeRaul has a reputation beyond reputeRaul has a reputation beyond reputeRaul has a reputation beyond repute
Re: This years wheels

Quote:
Originally Posted by chinckley View Post
Are there any limitations on wheels used?
Only limitation is that no metal or velcro-like material contact the carpet.
__________________
Warning: this reply is just an approximation of what I meant to convey - engineers cannot possibly use just written words to express what they are thinking.
Reply With Quote
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 22-01-2008, 17:06
psyco_klown's Avatar
psyco_klown psyco_klown is offline
aka Shawn Burgen
FRC #0839 (Rosie Robotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: agawam,ma
Posts: 85
psyco_klown is a splendid one to beholdpsyco_klown is a splendid one to beholdpsyco_klown is a splendid one to beholdpsyco_klown is a splendid one to beholdpsyco_klown is a splendid one to beholdpsyco_klown is a splendid one to behold
Re: This years wheels

i dont like the andymark wheels this year that came in the kit. they were all hard compared to last year which were soft and they actually sink in the middle like a u shape. we would have to put them on a lathe to fix them. anyone else have those problems.
__________________

Shawn Burgen-FRC Team 839 Mentor
Team 839 FTC Mentor
Reply With Quote
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 22-01-2008, 17:16
CraigHickman
 
Posts: n/a
Re: This years wheels

Quote:
Originally Posted by psyco_klown View Post
i dont like the andymark wheels this year that came in the kit. they were all hard compared to last year which were soft and they actually sink in the middle like a u shape. we would have to put them on a lathe to fix them. anyone else have those problems.
Once you put the robot's weight on the wheel, it spreads out to a larger contact patch. By lathing it down, you're actually decreasing the effectiveness of your wheels... Also, teams using the AM kit wheels should probably get some advice from the longboarding world on how to break in 'Thane wheels. You can make a hard wheel extremely slippery, or incredibly soft and grippy, all depending on how you wear it in.

If my team didn't have a decent budget, the AM wheels would be an instantly used item, as they are awesome for their price.
Reply With Quote
  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 22-01-2008, 18:15
Gdeaver Gdeaver is offline
Registered User
FRC #1640
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: West Chester, Pa.
Posts: 1,363
Gdeaver has a reputation beyond reputeGdeaver has a reputation beyond reputeGdeaver has a reputation beyond reputeGdeaver has a reputation beyond reputeGdeaver has a reputation beyond reputeGdeaver has a reputation beyond reputeGdeaver has a reputation beyond reputeGdeaver has a reputation beyond reputeGdeaver has a reputation beyond reputeGdeaver has a reputation beyond reputeGdeaver has a reputation beyond repute
Re: This years wheels

Skyway can provide 8" wheels like the ones first use to put in the kit. You will have to make adapters to use skyway wheels. In my opinion the rubber is much better on skyway. The andymark wheels are sloppy But you don't have to make hub adapters.
Reply With Quote
  #7   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 22-01-2008, 19:17
chinckley chinckley is offline
Winner 2009 West Michigan District
FRC #1254 (Entropy)
Team Role: Teacher
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Rookie Year: 2003
Location: Lawrence, Michigan
Posts: 204
chinckley is a name known to allchinckley is a name known to allchinckley is a name known to allchinckley is a name known to allchinckley is a name known to allchinckley is a name known to all
Re: This years wheels

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gdeaver View Post
Skyway can provide 8" wheels like the ones first use to put in the kit. You will have to make adapters to use skyway wheels. In my opinion the rubber is much better on skyway. The andymark wheels are sloppy But you don't have to make hub adapters.
Thank you so much.

Carolyn Hinckley
__________________
2009 West Michigan District Winner
Thanks to Team 216 and Team 1918

2009 Traverse City Semifinalist
Thanks to Team 1596 and Team 47
2009 Traverse City UL Safety Award Winners

Attending 2009: West Michigan, Traverse City, & State
Reply With Quote
  #8   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 23-01-2008, 15:51
windell747 windell747 is offline
Registered User
FRC #2477
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: Hawaii
Posts: 158
windell747 will become famous soon enoughwindell747 will become famous soon enough
Re: This years wheels

Hi, so the only rules that govern what wheels we can use is the price, that they are COTS and that they do no damage the field?

If we buy new 8" Skyway wheels and modify them is this still legal?

Thanks
Windell
#2477
Reply With Quote
  #9   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 23-01-2008, 16:35
Teched3 Teched3 is offline
Hodge1
FRC #0175 (BuzzRobotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Rookie Year: 1996
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 319
Teched3 has much to be proud ofTeched3 has much to be proud ofTeched3 has much to be proud ofTeched3 has much to be proud ofTeched3 has much to be proud ofTeched3 has much to be proud ofTeched3 has much to be proud ofTeched3 has much to be proud ofTeched3 has much to be proud of
Smile Re: This years wheels

Yes you can modify them. Use them as is if you want, but I would recommend getting them with the precision bearings to match your axle diameter. The stamped bearings will fail. Prices are very reasonable. You will need to make adapters to drive them and space chain if you use chain. I believe Innovation First made hub adapters that still might be available that make it an easier mount if you use chain and sprockets. They were in the KOP when Skyway wheels were offerred.

PS -- AndyMark still has stock (last time I looked) of last year's wheels available, which ae softer. Hoevr some of them faled at he bearing and/or spoke areas, and were beefed up for this year's version. We modified them by filling in the hub space with epoxy/fiberglass to take the hard side hits that caused the bearing to break out of the hub rim.

Last edited by Teched3 : 23-01-2008 at 16:42. Reason: Additional Information
Reply With Quote
  #10   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 23-01-2008, 16:53
elvin23's Avatar
elvin23 elvin23 is offline
not cool
FRC #0354 (354)
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Rookie Year: 2007
Location: . . .
Posts: 41
elvin23 can only hope to improve
Send a message via AIM to elvin23
Re: This years wheels

i been posting for a lil while and i got a bad rep from the post i edited
__________________
I never was a cool guy but i would like to be like the guy in the pic he's cool

Last edited by elvin23 : 23-01-2008 at 20:24. Reason: idk
Reply With Quote
  #11   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 23-01-2008, 20:36
Andy L's Avatar
Andy L Andy L is offline
Registered User
FRC #1458
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Danville
Posts: 348
Andy L has much to be proud ofAndy L has much to be proud ofAndy L has much to be proud ofAndy L has much to be proud ofAndy L has much to be proud ofAndy L has much to be proud ofAndy L has much to be proud ofAndy L has much to be proud ofAndy L has much to be proud of
Send a message via AIM to Andy L
Re: This years wheels

IFI has high traction wheels that you can get in 8"

http://www.ifirobotics.com/robot-traction-wheels.shtml

getting four of these runs pretty costly at $335.36 for a set of four wheels, bearings, 22 tooth sprockets and tread.

these are expensive but are very, very nice and work well
Reply With Quote
  #12   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 23-01-2008, 22:22
windell747 windell747 is offline
Registered User
FRC #2477
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: Hawaii
Posts: 158
windell747 will become famous soon enoughwindell747 will become famous soon enough
Re: This years wheels

Does anyone know where I can purchase the skyway wheels? I took a look at the skyway site and it doesn't seem that they have the 8" with precision bearings.

Please correct me if Im wrong. Thanks!
Reply With Quote
  #13   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 23-01-2008, 23:16
Gdeaver Gdeaver is offline
Registered User
FRC #1640
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: West Chester, Pa.
Posts: 1,363
Gdeaver has a reputation beyond reputeGdeaver has a reputation beyond reputeGdeaver has a reputation beyond reputeGdeaver has a reputation beyond reputeGdeaver has a reputation beyond reputeGdeaver has a reputation beyond reputeGdeaver has a reputation beyond reputeGdeaver has a reputation beyond reputeGdeaver has a reputation beyond reputeGdeaver has a reputation beyond reputeGdeaver has a reputation beyond repute
Re: This years wheels

Contact Skyway and tell them you are a First Team looking for 8" wheel chair wheels they supplied to first. They should be able to help you from there. If you are using the KOP frame then 3/8" grade 8 bolts work good for axles. Tell skyway you want bearing for the axle diameter you are going to use. They sell good bearing with the wheels for a reasonable price. IFI doesn't have the wheel sprocket adapters listed any more. They were expensive. Last year we got a piece of 3/4" LDPE from Mcmaster. Used a 3" hole saw and I believe a 1" to make the donuts. Put them on the wheel hub and mark the spokes in the six points. Use a thick saw blade to make the slots. Get aluminum sprockets from IFI or AndyMark. Center them on the donuts and drill the mounting holes. Use 10-24 socket head bolts with NYlock nuts. Thats what we did last year.
Reply With Quote
  #14   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 23-01-2008, 15:56
Jonathan Norris Jonathan Norris is offline
Jno
FRC #0610 (Crescent Robotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Rookie Year: 2004
Location: Toronto
Posts: 1,080
Jonathan Norris has a reputation beyond reputeJonathan Norris has a reputation beyond reputeJonathan Norris has a reputation beyond reputeJonathan Norris has a reputation beyond reputeJonathan Norris has a reputation beyond reputeJonathan Norris has a reputation beyond reputeJonathan Norris has a reputation beyond reputeJonathan Norris has a reputation beyond reputeJonathan Norris has a reputation beyond reputeJonathan Norris has a reputation beyond reputeJonathan Norris has a reputation beyond repute
Re: This years wheels

Quote:
Originally Posted by psyco_klown View Post
i dont like the andymark wheels this year that came in the kit. they were all hard compared to last year which were soft and they actually sink in the middle like a u shape. we would have to put them on a lathe to fix them. anyone else have those problems.
I believe last year we were supplied with Andy Mark wheels as well, its been two years since we had Skyway wheels now. The AM wheels with the mounting holes for sprockets are a big improvement over the skyway wheels from the past.
__________________
Co-Founder of Taplytics.com
2013 World Champions (1241, 1477, 610)
Crescent Robotics Team 610 Mentor
K-Botics Team 2809 Founding Mentor ('09-'11)
Queen's University Mechanical Engineering, Applied Science '11

Crescent Robotics Team 610 Alumni
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
pic: Team 241: This Years Bot Lifting Last Years Bot Dantvman27 Robot Showcase 3 21-02-2007 07:04
Last years versus this years trans. ratios de_ Motors 4 12-01-2006 13:56
Opinion on This Years Game xxerin General Forum 25 09-01-2005 21:45
This Years Window Motors tysonwormus Motors 1 12-01-2003 13:08
This Years GAme EIROBOTICS86 General Forum 47 06-01-2003 12:09


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 14:55.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi