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Re: Your game predictions - Car Nack Style

* An international team will win a big award at Atlanta (Rookie All Star, Chairman's or Champion).
* A rookie team on Einstein.
* In every other match at least one robot will find tip over.
* Most shooters will be considered too dangerous and therfore asked not to shoot balls.
* An all rookie alliance will win at least one regional.
* At least 25% of the robots will break during Qualification Matches.
* Someone will get injured, in at least 1 regional.
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Re: Your game predictions - Car Nack Style

Some creative team will be hailed as an innovator when they introduce brake lights, only to be disaapointed when in their first match, the lights are broken in a rear-end collision.

Coaches will sound an awful lot like traffic reporters.

A Sammy Hagar song will be HUGE.
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Some creative team will be hailed as an innovator when they introduce brake lights, only to be disaapointed when in their first match, the lights are broken in a rear-end collision.
Would the Robo-Police pull you over and give you a "ticket" for a broken tail lamp?

You know, this would have been the perfect year to bring back a placebo bot - dress him up as a pace car or cop car, let the little bugger drive around, mount a megaphone on the thing to let the head ref shout out penalties at the racers; put a wireless camera on it to give the types of angles you get from a NASCAR broadcast.

Anyone going to put "dash cams" on their robots this year? Think of the cool views that would yield. I believe they're still allowed with event staff permission. We had a 2.4 GHz wireless robot feed displayed up on the big board at several events in 2004.


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A Sammy Hagar song will be HUGE.

One foot on the brake and one on the gas, hey!
Well, there's too much traffic, I can't pass, no!
So I tried my best illegal move
to think black and white come and touched my groove again!

Gonna write me up a warrant 25
Post my face wanted dead or alive
Take my license, all that jive
I can't drive 55! Oh No!
Uh!
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Re: Your game predictions - Car Nack Style

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Some creative team will be hailed as an innovator when they introduce brake lights, only to be disaapointed when in their first match, the lights are broken in a rear-end collision.
This is the second time this thread has made me burst out laughing at work...
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Re: Your game predictions - Car Nack Style

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You know, this would have been the perfect year to bring back a placebo bot - dress him up as a pace car or cop car, let the little bugger drive around, mount a megaphone on the thing to let the head ref shout out penalties at the racers; put a wireless camera on it to give the types of angles you get from a NASCAR broadcast.





People would complain that the placebo bot was causing traffic jams.
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Re: Your game predictions - Car Nack Style

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* An international team will win a big award at Atlanta (Rookie All Star, Chairman's or Champion).
Tottanka, will this Rookie All Star team be, by chance, a team from Israel?

Understatement...

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Unread 01-02-2008, 14:56
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Re: Your game predictions - Car Nack Style

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1. Going straight has not been that big of a problem and using the robocoach to correct for traffic will offer some help to cross at least two lines. Think of the robot that hugs the center divider and turns left when it runs out of wall or the robot that hugs the oustide wall and follows it around. Who says that it takes 5 seconds to remove the trackball? Suppose that you could remove the trackball without stopping. I do agree that if you can get contol of the trackball when you remove it from the overpass, you will have some advantage. Getting a trackball off the floor will take some time if you opposing alliance is pushing your trackball around.

3: To hurdle you have to be at your own finish line and the trackball must have crossed the opponents finish line. To place, the trackball does not have to cross the opponents finish line nor does it have to be placed above your own finish line. I just think that you have more chance of being in position to place at the end than hurdle.
I don't doubt that the occasional team will be able to knock the ball off without stopping. We're attempting to be one of them. However, teams in general have such a bad track record at autonomous, I'm not willing to give us as a whole the benefit of the doubt enough to suggest it will be common. I'm much more inclined to believe it will be rather rare (on the order of less than 3 robots a regional).

On the other hand, the more I think about 3, the more I think I've changed my mind. I had forgotten about the fact that you have both sides to place, and for some silly reason had the stupid conception that if you placed you were magically barred from crossing.

So I would agree that placing is beneficial, but I think for some mechanisms it's going to be a more difficult task than hurdling.

Also, I'll rescind my 12 points being a high autonomous score. I wouldn't be on the average autonomous being higher than 12 though.
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Unread 01-02-2008, 15:04
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Re: Your game predictions - Car Nack Style

-In 1/3rd of matches, the hybrid score will be greater than the teleoperated score.

-Average autonomous scores will be 12-24, with an occasional huge score.

-VERSITAL autonomous modes will win, with all the robot out there.

-Most hurdlers will average 1-2 hurdles, with a select few getting 3-4, and 71/111/1114/other elite teams maybe getting an occasional 5.

-Impeding track penalties will be improperly enforced at half of regionals, and overly prevalent at 1/4th of them. This will become the most common complaint from people going "OMG this game is horrible"

-After week one, the lap indicator system will be heavily modified in the team updates.

-75% of launchers will perform poorly, but the remaining 25% will be forces at their regionals

-Most Ackerman steering designs will perform poorly, but swerve/crab/holonomic drive designs will do well.

-Good herders and racers will be rare, and under high demand, especially the racers.

-The infrared system will be used by most teams, but truly effectively by about 1/3rd.

-A rookie team will come up with something that revolutionizes robot designs for years to come.

-A rookie team will win a prominent award in Atlanta, other than Rookie all-star.

-An international team will make it to Einstein.

-Scissor lifts will make a reappearance, and at least one scissor lift robot, defying all expectations, will win a regional.

-1 to 3 teams will come up with an ingenious and effective suction system, most other suction robots will not do well.

-Many teams, particularly launchers, will get burned during inspection due to the wedge rule.

-50% of matches will be decided in autonomous, however, those that aren't will be undecided until the last few seconds.

-Autonomous and driver practice will be more important than usual.

-player station guards, like those in 2005, will be reintroduced, after a launcher shoots over the player station.

-The winning alliance on will have an arm-based hurdler, from a team that competed in 2001, a launcher that can also catch a falling trackball, and a racer, using one of the most impressive swerve drives FIRST has ever seen.

-Segments of at least 2 regionals, the championship, and maybe even an offseason event will be televised, thanks to dean's homework.




Says who we have to limit this to FRC?

Quad Quandary:

-Goal scoring will be the prominent form of scoring. So much so, that the SECOND place alliance will not be able to score rings for more than 2 points (you didn't think 1114 would settle for that, did you? )

-Getting 3 or 4 goals in autonomous will win most matches.



Power Puzzle:

-An RCX will win, with the huge bonus they get.

-Scores above 350 will be extremely common come atlanta, 400s will be rare, though
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Re: Your game predictions - Car Nack Style

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A Sammy Hagar song will be HUGE.
Another song ruined by bringing it to the masses. Also, never sing that song if you've just been pulled over, The cops don't appreciate it too much.
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Re: Your game predictions - Car Nack Style

After practice on day one there will be a world wide shortage of trackball bladders.

After practice on day one there will be a team update requiring additional shielding of the robots to protect the trackball.

Edges on the robot that are safe for human contact will become lethal weapons for trackballs.
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After practice on day one there will be a world wide shortage of trackball bladders.

After practice on day one there will be a team update requiring additional shielding of the robots to protect the trackball.

Edges on the robot that are safe for human contact will become lethal weapons for trackballs.
Hopefully most people will have read and followed <R05>. We spent several hours last night sanding and filing and grinding our frame to comply with it.
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Hopefully most people will have read and followed <R05>. We spent several hours last night sanding and filing and grinding our frame to comply with it.
There are 1500 teams out there. I expect a quarter of them to disobey the In 2005 there was a glaring rule with a crippling penalty attached to it and there were teams that blatantly ignored it.
Now we have 1500 teams. I expect a quarter of the teams to blow of the counterclockwise travel mandate. This rule probably not even going to be on their radar.
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There are 1500 teams out there. I expect a quarter of them to disobey the In 2005 there was a glaring rule with a crippling penalty attached to it and there were teams that blatantly ignored it.
Now we have 1500 teams. I expect a quarter of the teams to blow of the counterclockwise travel mandate. This rule probably not even going to be on their radar.
The thing about the counter clockwise travel mandate is that it only applies when you are crossing lines. It appears that in between the lines robots can move in any direction as long as they don't cross a non CW line. Basically the way I see it is teams can move any direction they want within the 4 quadrants.
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couldnt agree more here. Not enough of a "runway" to get up to speed and so much going on.
I thoroughly beg to differ
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I thoroughly beg to differ
I wholehartdly agree with Cory. I think you'll be surprised by how fast many teams go with full control and a few that just use the walls to guide them around.
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