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NASA Sprockets

Posted by Fruckmasta.

Student on team #253, MRT, from Mills High School.

Posted on 2/6/2000 12:47 PM MST



Are the sprockets for the drill motor given to the NASA teams this year actually legal for use on the robot?

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Re: NASA Sprockets

Posted by Daniel.

Coach on team #483, BORG, from Berkeley High School and NASA Ames & UC Berkeley.

Posted on 2/6/2000 1:45 PM MST


In Reply to: NASA Sprockets posted by Fruckmasta on 2/6/2000 12:47 PM MST:



Any sprockets, whether purchased or machined, are legal. So yes, the NASA sprockets are legal. My team actually doesn't have ours as we plan on veering away from that drive train this year, but you're making me curious. What's different about them?

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Re: NASA Sprockets

Posted by Eric Rasmussen.

Engineer from FIRST.

Posted on 2/6/2000 4:48 PM MST


In Reply to: Re: NASA Sprockets posted by Daniel on 2/6/2000 1:45 PM MST:



: Any sprockets, whether purchased or machined, are legal. So yes, the NASA sprockets are legal. My team actually doesn't have ours as we plan on veering away from that drive train this year, but you're making me curious. What's different about them?

I think it has something to do with the special Venutian polymers that they are using. I hear they have a kick-$@#$@#$@# machine shop in Area 51 that can make just about anything.



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Re: NASA Sprockets

Posted by Samuel Lindhorst.

Engineer on team #240, Mach Vee, from Jefferson High School and Visteon.

Posted on 2/6/2000 6:32 PM MST


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: : Any sprockets, whether purchased or machined, are legal. So yes, the NASA sprockets are legal. My team actually doesn't have ours as we plan on veering away from that drive train this year, but you're making me curious. What's different about them?

: I think it has something to do with the special Venutian polymers that they are using. I hear they have a kick-$@#$@#$@# machine shop in Area 51 that can make just about anything.

I heard that get it made on the Mother Ship, then teleport it directly to the team. Saves on Fedex charges.





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Re: NASA Sprockets

Posted by Dave Lavery.

Engineer on team #116, Aluminum Weasels, from Herndon High School and NASA Headquarters.

Posted on 2/7/2000 10:59 PM MST


In Reply to: Re: NASA Sprockets posted by Eric Rasmussen on 2/6/2000 4:48 PM MST:



Actually, Area 51 belongs to the Air Force, and they won't let us use it. So all our sprockets are of terrestrial manufacture (just don't ask me anything about the propulsion system...)

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Re: NASA Sprockets

Posted by Nate Smith.

Other on team #66, GM Powertrain/Willow Run HS, from Eastern Michigan University and GM Powertrain.

Posted on 2/9/2000 11:00 PM MST


In Reply to: Re: NASA Sprockets posted by Eric Rasmussen on 2/6/2000 4:48 PM MST:




: I think it has something to do with the special Venutian polymers that they are using. I hear they have a kick-$@#$@#$@# machine shop in Area 51 that can make just about anything.

Is it just me, or should this part of the thread be moved to the rumor mill? =)

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Re: NASA Sprockets

Posted by Jerry Eckert.

Engineer from Looking for a team in Raleigh, NC sponsored by .

Posted on 2/9/2000 11:37 PM MST


In Reply to: Re: NASA Sprockets posted by Nate Smith on 2/9/2000 11:00 PM MST:



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: : I think it has something to do with the special Venutian polymers that they are using. I hear they have a kick-$@#$@#$@# machine shop in Area 51 that can make just about anything.

: Is it just me, or should this part of the thread be moved to the rumor mill? =)

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Any sprockets versus Off the shelf sprockets

Posted by Joe Johnson.   [PICTURE: SAME | NEW | HELP]


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Posted on 2/6/2000 2:54 PM MST


In Reply to: NASA Sprockets posted by Fruckmasta on 2/6/2000 12:47 PM MST:



I don't have my rules with me, but I think that the stuff off the additional hardware list have to be 'off the shelf.'

So... Depending on whether or not my recollection is correct and whether the sprockets could be considered off the shelf, the sprockets may or may not be legal.

Anybody have a rule book handy?

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chapter & verse...

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Posted on 2/6/2000 3:10 PM MST


In Reply to: Any sprockets versus Off the shelf sprockets posted by Joe Johnson on 2/6/2000 2:54 PM MST:



K3. As denoted in the Additional Hardware List there is no restriction on the total quantity
or source of sprockets/pulleys/gears and chain/belt that can appear on your robot.
Each team may purchase from an outside source sprockets, gears and/or pulleys and
additional chain and/or belt, with the following condition:


• These components must be 'commercially available,' strictly off-the-shelf only.
No custom or special orders.



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Re: chapter & verse... - not so fast

Posted by Eric Rasmussen.

Engineer from FIRST.

Posted on 2/6/2000 4:41 PM MST


In Reply to: chapter & verse... posted by Joe Johnson on 2/6/2000 3:10 PM MST:



: K3. As denoted in the Additional Hardware List there is no restriction on the total quantity
: or source of sprockets/pulleys/gears and chain/belt that can appear on your robot.
: Each team may purchase from an outside source sprockets, gears and/or pulleys and
: additional chain and/or belt, with the following condition:
:
: • These components must be 'commercially available,' strictly off-the-shelf only.
: No custom or special orders.

That is what was printed in the manual. However, we eliminated that rule and replaced it with Folger's Crystals... Ahem, I mean a new Rule K3. See Team Update #1.

-Eric





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Can't find 'the NEW K1'

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Posted on 2/6/2000 5:34 PM MST


In Reply to: Re: chapter & verse... - not so fast posted by Eric Rasmussen on 2/6/2000 4:41 PM MST:



Eric,

I can't find the new K1 rule you mentioned.

At least not in update #1.

Anybody with some help out there?

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It's here

Posted by Samuel Lindhorst.

Engineer on team #240, Mach Vee, from Jefferson High School and Visteon.

Posted on 2/6/2000 6:27 PM MST


In Reply to: Can't find 'the NEW K1' posted by Joe Johnson on 2/6/2000 5:34 PM MST:



: Eric,

: I can't find the new K1 rule you mentioned.

: At least not in update #1.

: Anybody with some help out there?

: Joe J.

Update #3:

Q68. On page 33 of the Additional Hardware List (Appendix C), it says 'sprockets, gears and pulleys - any size, any amount.' Are we allowed to manufacture these sprockets, gears and pulleys to our specific requirements, or do we have to purchase them from stock items?
A68. Per the updated Rule K3 (see Team Update #1 on he FIRST web site), you may now fabricate your own gears, pulleys, and sprockets.

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Re: It's here

Posted by Justin Stiltner.

Student on team #388, Epsilon, from Grundy High School and NASA, American Electric Power, Town of Grundy.

Posted on 2/6/2000 7:27 PM MST


In Reply to: It's here posted by Samuel Lindhorst on 2/6/2000 6:27 PM MST:



What sprokets given to the NASA teams??
my team is sponsored by NASA and to my knowlege we dident recive anytihng other than the standard kit of parts.

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Re: It's here

Posted by Ben Hebert.

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Posted on 2/6/2000 11:04 PM MST


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Every year, NASA makes sprockets for most of its sponsored teams. You should probably talk to whoever your contact is at NASA, because they've already provided them to many teams.


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Re: It's here

Posted by Justin Stiltner.

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Posted on 2/7/2000 9:32 PM MST


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Ill get right on that

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