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Problem with our Victor?

Hi,

we're a new team, and our speed controller seems to be acting up and not working right. We're wondering if anybody might know why, take a look at the picture.

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Re: Problem with our Victor?

I circled all the problems I could find in red...
First, check your wiring (make sure there are wires connected)
Second, your PWM cable is not fully inserted (it actually appears that it is missing)
Third, you may have burned all the FETs because your fan is missing.

That's about all I could find.
Except the fact that it is cut in half...
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Re: Problem with our Victor?

Dead battery idiot.
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Re: Problem with our Victor?

Update:

we forgot to mention this, but we took a look inside the capacitor, and there appears to be misshapen, twisted, and melted metal. Also, it wiggles around on the circuit board quite a bit.

We tried hooking up a PWM cable and the battery, but no go. It's still dead.

We're still investigating the issue about the fan.

Thanks for the help so far!
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Re: Problem with our Victor?

This has to be one of the strangest threads I have ever read
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Re: Problem with our Victor?

I suspect a bandsaw was the culprit....

And on a somewhat related note, I have seen dog training clickers from petco that sound EXACTLY like a breaker tripping.... May have used it last year.....
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Re: Problem with our Victor?

I cannot be absolutely certain, but I think the Victor may be leaking. With it powered up, check for escaping electrons. If you find any, locate the leak and plug it, then top up the magic smoke if necessary.
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Re: Problem with our Victor?

I am not positive, but I believe that may be an illegal modification of an electrical component. You may want to Q & A the GDC before you use a Victor with the modifications you have made. (NO DON'T REALLY CONTACT THE GDC)
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Re: Problem with our Victor?

Looks like you got a defective victor .. as long as the warranty stickers aren't broken .. IFI should replace it
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Re: Problem with our Victor?

I believe this part of the Victor is missing

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Re: Problem with our Victor?

You could contact IFI now, or you could simply go up to spare parts when you get to your first regional.
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Re: Problem with our Victor?

You know, I have seen thousands of Victors over the years and hundreds of damaged ones. I have seen every conceivable defect, power hooked up backwards, power to the output, metal shavings, contact with a wayward robot arm, even a broken battery cable contacting the FETs, but I have never, ever, seen this before.
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Re: Problem with our Victor?

I think the problem exists between the electronics board and the chair/stool. But who knows, maybe even then it doesn't exist.
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Re: Problem with our Victor?

Thank you all for your gracious help! We really do appreciate it.

We've been investigating the issues you've mentioned, and we came to the conclusion that there wasn't in fact a fan on top, so we mounted one on it. (See pic 1.) We also thought that it wasn't getting enough energy, and since gold fish give us energy, we put some on there as well. There also is a battery.

However, it still didn't work. We thought it might be dehydrated, so we added some water. (Pic 2.)

It STILL doesn't work. We suddenly realized that the electrons must be leaking out, so we got some masking tape and masked it all up. Since the fan wasn't working on top, we did a counter-top configuration, hoping that would work. (pic 3.)

We realized that the fan was pointed in the wrong direction, so we rewired our configuration so that the fan pointed towards the electronics. We also forgot water in picture 3, so we poured some on the counter so that we would get good conductivity.

Unfortunately, we still have 0 workage (at least in joules). We are wondering if anybody has any ideas, because we're up to here in it, you believe me.

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P.S., does anybody know where we can get any magic smoke? IFI is on backorder right now, and so is Papa John's. Thanks!
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Re: Problem with our Victor?

You may want to get the trunk monkeys working on this issue. Every car has a trunk monkey, and they can usually fix anything. I still believe the issue resides in a bad connection... Did you try to solder the fan to the victor? It's hard to solder plastic to plastic, but it can be done! Doing this will also make some magic smoke, so gather it in a jar!
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