Team 935 Electronics

[DustinB_3]

Originally Posted by sdcantrell56

Also you can only use 1 van door motor. Maybe you are talking about the window motors.

Could you please quote the rule. I looked but couldn't find the restriction.

<R59> Additional motors specifically permitted on 2008 FRC ROBOTS include:
All motors, actuators, and servos provided in the 2008 Kit Of Parts,
HITEC HS-322HD servos,
FIRST Tech Challenge (FTC) servos (Innovation First part number 276-2162),
FIRST Tech Challenge (FTC) motors (Innovation First part number 276-2163),
One or two additional 2-1/2” CIM motors (part #FR801-001 and/or M4-R0062-12 in addition
to those provided in the Kit Of Parts. This means that up to four, and no more, 2-1/2” CIM
motors can be used on the ROBOT.

This is the only rule I could find and it says that you can buy additional motors as long as they are the same as what's in the kit of parts.

[GaryVoshol]

Originally Posted by sdcantrell56

Also you can only use 1 van door motor. Maybe you are talking about the window motors.

Originally Posted by DustinB_3

Could you please quote the rule. I looked but couldn't find the restriction.

<R59> Additional motors specifically permitted on 2008 FRC ROBOTS include:
All motors, actuators, and servos provided in the 2008 Kit Of Parts,
HITEC HS-322HD servos,
FIRST Tech Challenge (FTC) servos (Innovation First part number 276-2162),
FIRST Tech Challenge (FTC) motors (Innovation First part number 276-2163),
One or two additional 2-1/2” CIM motors (part #FR801-001 and/or M4-R0062-12 in addition
to those provided in the Kit Of Parts. This means that up to four, and no more, 2-1/2” CIM
motors can be used on the ROBOT.

This is the only rule I could find and it says that you can buy additional motors as long as they are the same as what's in the kit of parts.

So close. Look here:

<R58> Motors, pumps, and, Robot Controllers from previous robots shall not be used in addition to
those provided in the 2008 Kit Of Parts. They may be used as direct one-to-one SPARE
PARTS for those provided if the provided part fails or is damaged. They can only be used if
they are identical to the part being replaced.

(emphasis mine)

<R59> should not have used the first word "Additional" as it misleads people. "Additional" should have been only in the CIM bullet point.

The first bullet point says you can use motors found in the KoP. It does not say that you can use extra copies of those motors. One van door motor was given in the kit; one may be used.

[DustinB_3]

Wow, your right I must be as blind as a bat. I skipped right over that rule. Thanks for your help. Looks like we're stuck using 2 FP motors. Has anyone had any experience with them. Do they have sufficient torque and are they robust enough? Any suggestions?

[GaryVoshol]

Also see this Q&A: http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=8568

And this: http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=8142

[DustinB_3]

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol

Also see this Q&A: http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=8568

And this: http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=8142

We're probably going to use 2 FP motors and gearboxes not window motors.

[vhcook]

I didn't notice this before, but what gauge wire are you using from the PDB to the ATC panel? I believe it's supposed to be #6 per R50, and that looks like #10 or #12.

[DustinB_3]

Originally Posted by vhcook

I didn't notice this before, but what gauge wire are you using from the PDB to the ATC panel? I believe it's supposed to be #6 per R50, and that looks like #10 or #12.

I don't remember I'll have to check. I have to redo the ATC anyway. Thanks for the catch.

[roboticWanderor]

im wondering what the inspectors are going to think of that... will they make you take off those channels and reveal the possible rats nest underneath?