Go to Post Read the manual. Read the manual. Read the manual. Read the manual. Read the manual. Read the manual. Read the manual. Read the manual. Read the manual. Read the manual. Read the manual. Read the manual. Read the manual. Read the manual. - RoboChair [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > FIRST > Robot Showcase
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 11-02-2008, 11:38
abeD's Avatar
abeD abeD is offline
Registered User
FRC #4707 (Mentor FRC#4707 Alumni FRC#710)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: Ft Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 305
abeD is a splendid one to beholdabeD is a splendid one to beholdabeD is a splendid one to beholdabeD is a splendid one to beholdabeD is a splendid one to beholdabeD is a splendid one to beholdabeD is a splendid one to behold
Re: Team 1565 Unique Drive System

Wow impressive, definitely gets my vote for creativity.

Couple of questions:

What made you choose this design over a crab style with 1 motor controlling wheel orientation?

Are you worried about getting pushed (on purpose, or inadvertently) having all omniwheels?
__________________
Penn Class 08
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 11-02-2008, 13:25
T3_1565 T3_1565 is offline
Registered User
AKA: Twitch Drive Designer
FRC #1360
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: Burlington, Ontario
Posts: 854
T3_1565 has a brilliant futureT3_1565 has a brilliant futureT3_1565 has a brilliant futureT3_1565 has a brilliant futureT3_1565 has a brilliant futureT3_1565 has a brilliant futureT3_1565 has a brilliant futureT3_1565 has a brilliant futureT3_1565 has a brilliant futureT3_1565 has a brilliant futureT3_1565 has a brilliant future
Send a message via MSN to T3_1565
Re: Team 1565 Unique Drive System

Quote:
Could the 1.5" bore piston be replaced with 2 separate 3/4" bore pistons that are identically mounted but move in opposite directions to achieve the same effect?
You can use 1 3/4" bore if you wanted, but we only had a 1.5" at the time, and decided why bother replacing it if we already have a mount made for it.

Quote:
Can the omnis be replace with traction wheels for more traction or is there too much skid when the wheels orthogonally rotate 90 degrees while the robot is at speed?
No the omnis cannot be replaced, nor have we tried, because of the skidding it does, when switching the wheels at speed. It would seem to me (which is why we didn't try) that the linkage would probably destroy itself if traction wheels were on it.

Quote:
What made you choose this design over a crab style with 1 motor controlling wheel orientation?
We wanted to do something unique, and we have no experience with crab or omni for that matter. We decided to make an in-between bot that was easier to build than crab, yet stronger than omni

Quote:
Are you worried about getting pushed (on purpose, or inadvertently) having all omniwheels?
No we aren't, if someone pushes us, the only way we would move easily is if pushed perpendicular to the wheels (so along the rollers) in which case, we can switch the wheels. Omni wheels are good for traction when being pushed striaght with the wheels. Overall we should have as much pushing power as any four wheel drive bot, from every direction.


Thanks for the comments everyone!!
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 11-02-2008, 13:29
MrForbes's Avatar
MrForbes MrForbes is offline
Registered User
AKA: Jim
FRC #1726 (N.E.R.D.S.)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Sierra Vista AZ
Posts: 5,937
MrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Team 1565 Unique Drive System

This is an amazing robot, great job!


Quote:
Originally Posted by T3_1565 View Post
Overall we should have as much pushing power as any four wheel drive bot, from every direction.
I wouldn't go quite that far....keep in mind that when you push up against another robot, much of the weight is transferred to the rear wheels, and you only have two drive motors back there. A normal skid steer 4 wheel drive bot has power to both front and rear wheels on each side from a common transmission, so it has twice the torque available at the rear wheels as yours does.

But this years game seems to be more conducive to quick, highly maneuverable robots like yours, so that should not concern you.
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 11-02-2008, 17:51
T3_1565 T3_1565 is offline
Registered User
AKA: Twitch Drive Designer
FRC #1360
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: Burlington, Ontario
Posts: 854
T3_1565 has a brilliant futureT3_1565 has a brilliant futureT3_1565 has a brilliant futureT3_1565 has a brilliant futureT3_1565 has a brilliant futureT3_1565 has a brilliant futureT3_1565 has a brilliant futureT3_1565 has a brilliant futureT3_1565 has a brilliant futureT3_1565 has a brilliant futureT3_1565 has a brilliant future
Send a message via MSN to T3_1565
Re: Team 1565 Unique Drive System

well for generalization sake, we are a four wheel drive bot, with omni bot agility (again roughly)

thanks again for the comments!
Closed Thread


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
pic: Team 2404 (TNT) Omni Drive System LaurenH Extra Discussion 12 11-02-2008 17:22
pic: Unique drive concept Joe G. Extra Discussion 36 12-05-2007 20:27
What drive system is your team using? dpick1055 Technical Discussion 22 27-01-2007 23:29
pic: Team 612 Drive System RoboMadi Robot Showcase 7 08-02-2006 16:38
Video: Team 95's Holonomic Drive System kaszeta Robot Showcase 0 08-02-2006 09:54


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 19:04.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi