Shooters vs Arms

[Jonathan Norris]

Personally the best robots this year will be a combination of both, we will see robots that can knock down, pickup, place, and shoot the ball. I am willing to bet that a couple of the top teams will build a bot that can do all of the above extremely effectively, hey we haven't seen 71, 111, 67, 254, 233, 1114 ect. yet!

[SteveGPage]

Originally Posted by Jonathan Norris

Personally the best robots this year will be a combination of both, we will see robots that can knock down, pickup, place, and shoot the ball. I am willing to bet that a couple of the top teams will build a bot that can do all of the above extremely effectively, hey we haven't seen 71, 111, 67, 254, 233, 1114 ect. yet!

Team 836 has designed our bot to do just that. All the various components work quite well, and tonight we will start the extensive integration testing to see how effectively they all will work together.

[Michael Corsetto]

I think a third classification should be added to this thread...

Throwers.

[cwood]

just for discussion purposes hat if said shooter were capable of knocking a rather large mentor off his feet from the opposite side of the field, what would be your plan to easily block it. without getting you robot destroyed

[Brandon Holley]

Originally Posted by cwood

just for discussion purposes hat if said shooter were capable of knocking a rather large mentor off his feet from the opposite side of the field, what would be your plan to easily block it. without getting you robot destroyed

Blocking a ball is a completely legit strategy.....but you better bet the team blocking is taking a risk by attempting to "stuff" you. Doesn't mean they can't do it though.

[cwood]

Originally Posted by Brandon Holley

Blocking a ball is a completely legit strategy.....but you better bet the team blocking is taking a risk by attempting to "stuff" you. Doesn't mean they can't do it though.

well they could probaly do it once and the ball could leave the robot from above 5 feet so i believe that what ever is used to block the ball will end up dangling from the robot so i believe it will happen once until teams see the results

[Kellen Hill]

Well,

1. Shooters can have mechanisms to knock the ball down. I know my team does and,

2. A hurdle at the end of the game rather than setting it back on the overpass is just as good, you just miss out on a couple points.

I think effective shooters will dominate this years game.

[cwood]

Thank you hill i believe that will be the case as well

[SgtMillhouse648]

I personally feel that a combination of both a shooter and arm are vital to this year's game. Shooters are fast at some things, and absolutely horrible at others etc. placing on top of overpass. Arms are the same way. They both have their pros and cons, and to work to the best of their abilities, must work together to score the maximum number of points. We have an arm this year, but have come up with a way to score more points than the average arm....wait and see.......

[Kellen Hill]

Being able to set the ball up on the overpass gives you 12 points while doing another hurdle and crossing the line gets you 10. Where is the major advantage in 2 more points?

[s_forbes]

Originally Posted by hill

Being able to set the ball up on the overpass gives you 12 points while doing another hurdle and crossing the line gets you 10. Where is the major advantage in 2 more points?

Well, four more points, because you could also drive under after you place the ball. (or push the ball under, drive under, and put it up for 6 more points!)

But I think the real advantage to the placing the ball at the end is that you can do it on either overpass (correct me if I'm wrong...). So if you are stuck on the wrong side of the field and need a quick 12 points to win the match, placing the ball up is the way to go.

[Joe Matt]

Shooters all the way. Yes arms can get the balls on top if need be, but frankly people, the balls can easily be knocked off the overpass almost as easily as they were put up there. It's similar to 2003, it was too easy to remove the big points.

[t-raum]

A shooter I think is the best way to go even during end game. As long as you have a device that can knock the ball off the overpass at the end. The shooter can hurdle and then knock te opponents ball off the overpass to create a 22 point gain for the alliance who can do this. If a team can pull this off end game would be very interesting.

[Captain Sugar]

our shooter is almost like an arm in its attributes. it can pick up the balls really easily, using a set of rings on the front. however, when it shoots, the pneumatics contraption pushes out too far and actually pushes the robot off the ground, so we can't shoot on the go. it shoots the ball really far, though.

[Sam N.]

Originally Posted by hill

Well,

1. Shooters can have mechanisms to knock the ball down. I know my team does and,

2. A hurdle at the end of the game rather than setting it back on the overpass is just as good, you just miss out on a couple points.

I think effective shooters will dominate this years game.

I disagree,

My team has built a shooter but I think that well-built lifters will provide major competition.

A well-built, fast, and coordinated lifter will be just as powerful as a shooter in my opinion. Some teams have already proved this with their videos they have released.

Sam N.