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Question Battery?

It says to ship the Battery In it's original box... Well the batteries we got Came with the Kit... Without the original box. Is it okay to just ship it without the box and just make the inner box?
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It says to ship the Battery In it's original box... Well the batteries we got Came with the Kit... Without the original box. Is it okay to just ship it without the box and just make the inner box?
I'm not quite sure I understand the question.

First, you do not have to ship the batteries with the robot. (Good option, if you are fairly close to the event or you only have one event.)

Second, as regards making a box, see this Q&A.

Third, what do you mean by "ship it without the box and just make the inner box"?
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Re: Battery?

If you include batteries, you must:
 Ship them inside their original box or carton packaging.
 Use the Styrofoam covering with protective caps to cover the battery terminals.
 Secure the boxed batteries inside the “inner battery box” section of the robot crate in an
upright position. The photograph below shows a sample of an inner battery box built to
comply with regulations. Remember to label this box…see below.




That is The directions in 4.2 of the manual... The first Bullet (or box as it showed up there) says ""Ship them inside their original box or carton packaging."" No clue if I'm making sense yet... fifteen things going on right now!!!!!!
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If you include batteries, you must:
 Ship them inside their original box or carton packaging.
 Use the Styrofoam covering with protective caps to cover the battery terminals.
 Secure the boxed batteries inside the “inner battery box” section of the robot crate in an
upright position. The photograph below shows a sample of an inner battery box built to
comply with regulations. Remember to label this box…see below.




That is The directions in 4.2 of the manual... The first Bullet (or box as it showed up there) says ""Ship them inside their original box or carton packaging."" No clue if I'm making sense yet... fifteen things going on right now!!!!!!
OK, now I understand. I would say you can't just do the box for the crate; sorry, that's the rules. You'll need to follow the Q&A's direction on the cardboard box. Or, just bring the batteries with you (if you're driving to your event--flying with the batteries is not recommended).
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Re: Battery?

Alright thanks... thats what I've been TELLING everyone... But no one listens to the girl!!!


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Re: Battery?

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OK, now I understand. I would say you can't just do the box for the crate; sorry, that's the rules. You'll need to follow the Q&A's direction on the cardboard box. Or, just bring the batteries with you (if you're driving to your event--flying with the batteries is not recommended).

Do the batteries count towards our 25ish weight limit that we are allowed to bring with us to the event?
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Re: Battery?

They aren't fabricated items, so no. They're COTS, which means unlimited amounts.
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Re: Battery?

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Re: Battery?

You build a box out of plywood in the corner of your crate. Into this box you put the batteries, packaged in their original cardboard. Then you screw the top onto the plywood box. Insert robot, close lid, attach shipping papers - you're good to go!

Or you can plop the batteries in the back of someone's car (without letting them wander around the trunk) and have them with you when you pull up into the parking lot of the venue. If you've been planning ahead, you might have even charged them up the night before - something you can't do when they're inside the crate.
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Re: Battery?

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You build a box out of plywood in the corner of your crate. Into this box you put the batteries, packaged in their original cardboard...
Tiix tells us her team received the batteries without the original cardboard.

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Or you can plop the batteries in the back of someone's car (without letting them wander around the trunk) and have them with you when you pull up into the parking lot of the venue.
Assuming the team is driving to the competition site, that's a fine solution to her problem.
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Re: Battery?

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Assuming the team is driving to the competition site, that's a fine solution to her problem.
My team just wasn't sure if that counted towards the weight we were allowed to bring with us!!

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Tiix tells us her team received the batteries without the original cardboard.
Or more likely, someone in their zeal to find all the shiny new kit parts opened the box and tossed it. It has been known to happen. Not that I've had this experience personally - oh wait, yes I have.
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Re: Battery?

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Or more likely, someone in their zeal to find all the shiny new kit parts opened the box and tossed it. It has been known to happen. Not that I've had this experience personally - oh wait, yes I have.
That was SO not me!! I wasnt here when they went through everything!!
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Re: Battery?

So is it definate that we can transport the batteries in a Team Vehicle? Is it mandatory to ship them with the robot?
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So is it definate that we can transport the batteries in a Team Vehicle? Is it mandatory to ship them with the robot?
It is definite--See Section 4.2.
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NOTE: It is not mandatory that you ship your batteries with the robot, however if you choose to ship the 12VDC batteries in the crate with the robot, federal regulations require teams to follow the instructions below. If you do not adhere to these rules, your crate may not make it to the event(s).
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