2008 St. Louis Regional

[GaryVoshol]

45, 494 and 1658 are also missing one of their games in the standings table - was there really that many DQ's?

New thought: Surrogates. There are 45 teams; if they are playing an odd number of rounds, 3 of the teams will be surrogates. By this year's rules, the surrogate matches are the 3rd match of the competition.

Still, that leaves one of 45, 148, 494 and 1658 having been DQ'd.

[Ricky Q.]

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol

45, 494 and 1658 are also missing one of their games in the standings table - was there really that many DQ's?

New thought: Surrogates. There are 45 teams; if they are playing an odd number of rounds, 3 of the teams will be surrogates. By this year's rules, the surrogate matches are the 3rd match of the competition.

Still, that leaves one of 45, 148, 494 and 1658 having been DQ'd.

Those teams have all played as surrogates, this year surrogate matches are a team's 3rd match, not the last one like last year.

STL is rocking here, 217 is solid and 148 keeps racking up the laps.

EDIT: 1658 was a DQ for not showing up; 45, 148, 494 were surrogates.

[Ed Coleman]

Can someone tell me if there is video from today and where I can go to see todays results? Also, how are the Indiana teams doing?

[Jherbie53]

Here is the link http://www2.usfirst.org/2008comp/eve.../rankings.html for the rankings. 148 and 1444 are undefeated.

[Mark Pierce]

I'll give quick update from the non-competition side of things.

We've been busy in the pits, but so has almost everyone, it seems. It is a first week regional so that's not entirely unexpected. Everyone seems to be helping each other in true FIRST fashion.

St. Louis is really showing us a great event. As a first timer here, I'm surprised at how much it feels like home. Lots of familiar faces, but even more new people to meet. Several volunteers have stopped by to make sure we're doing OK and the judges seem experienced and friendly.

The competition seems closer than the standings and results show. Our scouting team (an incredible bunch) just spent several hours deciding that it's impossible to agree on a ranking order of the top machines and teams. Putting 217 at the top is easy, from there it gets tough. Some of it's the game, but every team has its strengths and challenges.

Hopefully tomorrow I'll see more matches, but I'm having a great time.

[Schnabel]

Andy did a four ball belly slide, and that's my update!

[Pat Major]

Originally Posted by Ricky Q.

Those teams have all played as surrogates, this year surrogate matches are a team's 3rd match, not the last one like last year.

STL is rocking here, 217 is solid and 148 keeps racking up the laps.

EDIT: 1658 was a DQ for not showing up; 45, 148, 494 were surrogates.

Surrogates in our third match???? I am unaware of any new rule, or a third match surrogate. Did I miss something? Team 494 has three matches to play on Saturday, not two. I think that is the difference.

Ten years of attending Regionals......this is the first regional I have attended where they were giving out money to all the teams. THANK YOU MASTERCARD

[J Flex 188]

I'm curious as to how the 148 strategy is playing out in this first week regional. How have their pairings been? Have they typically won or carried an alliance on the strength of their lapping or have there been factors with other partners hurdling at the same time? 1st place is truly impressive for a machine like that and speaks to the skill that they must drive with. How have the other teams been dealing with a robot like that (if at all!)?

[Ralph Lambert]

It was actually MasterCard that gave $100 to every team at the regional. MasterCard is a regional sponsor and has been supplying judges for some time but our team and others have been bugging the MasterCard folks here in St Louis to sponsor individual teams. This may be their approach which provides funding to teams without singling out any one team.

[GaryVoshol]

Originally Posted by Pat Major

Surrogates in our third match???? I am unaware of any new rule, or a third match surrogate. Did I miss something? Team 494 has three matches to play on Saturday, not two. I think that is the difference

Yes indeed. It's in 9.3.2:

All teams will play the same number of qualifying matches except if the number of team
appearances (number of teams multiplied by number of rounds) is not divisible by six; in that case
the scoring system will randomly select some teams to play an extra match. For purposes of
seeding calculations, those teams will be designated as SURROGATES for the extra match. If
teams play a match as a SURROGATE, it will be indicated on the match schedule, and it will
always be their third match.

In the Midwest Regional match sheets that someone posted, there was a thin column marked "S" next to each team assignment. I presume those would be marked somehow to indicate the surrogate match.

Best of luck in the rest of the tournament.

[Ricky Q.]

Originally Posted by Pat Major

Surrogates in our third match???? I am unaware of any new rule, or a third match surrogate. Did I miss something? Team 494 has three matches to play on Saturday, not two. I think that is the difference.

Ten years of attending Regionals......this is the first regional I have attended where they were giving out money to all the teams. THANK YOU MASTERCARD

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol

Yes indeed. It's in 9.3.2:
In the Midwest Regional match sheets that someone posted, there was a thin column marked "S" next to each team assignment. I presume those would be marked somehow to indicate the surrogate match.

Best of luck in the rest of the tournament.

Indeed, 494's third match was their surrogate match, as indicated by the '1' in the S column of the match list.

[GaryVoshol]

Ouch! Score 90 points and lose the match

[Ricky Q.]

STL Alliances

1) 148 217 830
2) 1444 45 1
3) 494 1094 1985
4) 525 2062 2044
5) 2081 85 1208
6) 2457 70 829
7) 1288 1178 1098
8) 1182 1741 292

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by Ricky Q.

STL Alliances

1) 148 217 830
2) 1444 45 1
3) 494 1094 1985
4) 525 2062 2044
5) 2081 85 1208
6) 2457 70 829
7) 1288 1178 1098
8) 1182 1741 292

Geez.
Those first two alliances look similar to last year's alliances.

[Cooley744]

lol 1:41 there playing a Hannah Montana song! lol