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Hah, rumors? NO ONE spreads rumors HERE, this is FIRST! A rumor here would be like, oh, I don't know, an old person in Florida! How often does THAT happen?
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I don't know... right now the biggest thing scaring me is the new control system for 2009... I'm afraid it might use LabView. I have absolutely ZERO interest in trying to use LabView to code our robots, I had enough trouble trying to get the blasted camera to work using it. I say good riddance to that camera, and may it never return to FIRST competition, EVER.
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Microsoft and FIRST (For Inspiration and Recognition of Science and Technology) announced today that Microsoft will be the sole supplier of robotic control systems and software starting in the 2009 competition season. In addition to providing hardware and software solutions for the teams' robots, Microsoft will develop competition field control systems for all FIRST events. Teams and event staffs will have access to Microsoft's web-based and toll-free telephone customer support to address any questions or problems they may have throughout the competition season.
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This one statement is why I know this is not a rumor. This is a flat out LIE!!
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![]() but he does occasionally spread rumors...That thunder you hear is me getting out of range quickly... |
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A great one I saw once said that teams would not be allowed to use wheels. Needless to say, that would throw everybody off just a little bit...
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Ohhhh! Ed, That's dangerously close to technical after all these years.
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By the way, I'm just kidding... |
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Last semester I worked on a robot that was able to navigate itself around obstacles and stay away from tables and other such items. The entire thing was done in assembly, written on top of a Parallax SX chip. The only sensors were bumper sensors (simple whiskers) and infra-red. It took just about 160 lines of assembly to get it all working extremely well. When we (me and my team mate) re-wrote the code in SX/B (BASIC variant for the SX) it took us many more lines as we had to program around the flaws that existed in SX/B, and the fact that it would otherwise not be fast enough at the 1 Mhz the chip ran at. As for more intensive robots would I chose assembly? Probably not, thinking back to my FIRST experience I would have certainly done more inline assembly for our robot only because it would have sped certain parts up which were really doing too much processing. I used to hate assembly, until I started programming in assembly, and that is when I really started to love the fact that you have so much more control over the hardware, you can optimise so much more than any compiler could possibly ever do. Assembly also changes the way you approach a problem and the way you think. |
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While I believe FIRST has done a great job with regards to the control system it uses now, the ease of programming (especially with EasyC), and other such items. I do think it would provide an entirely new competition if they changed the systems to one that all teams are not familiar with. That way it is harder to take old code and use it on the new bot, at least without significant modifications. |
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