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Re: 2008 Ultimate Alliance

This is the way I see it right now. A pairing of any of these robots would be amazing. Either way, look for all of these teams to be making waves in ATL.

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1114, 217 (I absolutely love the chickens this year! Slams are much cooler than Boops)

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330, 968, 987, 233, 71 (with rollers), 1124, 16

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175, 254, 2056, 111, 118, 980, 121, 1024, 1625, 33

Forgive me if I am forgetting anyone. These are just the teams that stick out in my mind. Also forgive me for the northeast bias. These teams pop into my head much faster.
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This might sound a little obvious at first but stay with me... it all depends on who gets #1 seed and who is in what division. If the two best hurdlers are in the same division (personal opinion: 1114, 217) and one of them gets the number one seed, then they will pick the other. I think you will be hard-pressed to find 2 robots that can beat this as it stands now. If one of them does not get the number one seed, then things start getting interesting, because there is going to be a face-off, now it all depends who gets the number one seed, is it a good or average bot?
Or if the first seed is smart, they can break up alliances before they are made. Let's say that 1114 and 217 are in the same division. #1 seed is, say, a not-so-good team. 1114 is third and 217 is fifth (random seeds). If that team is smart, they will: pick 217, then pick 1114. Note: only do this if you know both will decline...Now, 1114 and 217 CAN'T team up, and so both get a less-good alliance. They may even face each other at some point.

It all depends who is first seed. At L.A., with two good hurdlers and about three or four less-good ones, the first seed was one of the good hurdlers and picked the other. Game over.
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Re: 2008 Ultimate Alliance

1114,39,2016

first of all the ultimate alliance definitely has to include 1114 and probably 39 and for the last bot since its fellows almost never break and 1114 covers both balls in hybrid i would have to pick the fastest team, 2016 who also gets lines in hybrid.
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Re: 2008 Ultimate Alliance

the pink swamp tigers
233, 1251, 179
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85, thunderchickens, 148
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Re: 2008 Ultimate Alliance

You all forgot the ultimate sleeper who can do everything well 2062
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You all forgot the ultimate sleeper who can do everything well 2062
Perhaps so, but the question is not about individual teams. It's about alliances. What generally wins competitions is not a robot's ability to "do everything", but the team's ability to work effectively with others.

Doing everything well is often less effective than doing one or two things exceptionally well. The RoboChickenPack alliance at St. Louis had a team with exceptional speed and agility, a team with exceptional ball-handling ability, and a team with exceptional tactical skills. They won against alliances with very good robots that individually did everything well...just not as exceptionally well.
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Re: 2008 Ultimate Alliance

1114 1024 and 103

i wonder if 2056 is any good this year, 1114 and 2056 complemented each other to form an almost unstopable alliance (3 contests won, only 3 losses during elims, Waterloo Finals match 1, GTR semi's match 2, and IRI, i think Quarterfinals.)

check back with me tomorrow, i might have a totally diffrent alliance...
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Re: 2008 Ultimate Alliance

Just a friendly reminder...

Plugging your own team for the ultimate alliance is like saying that your report is the best in the class and should get an A just because you wrote it. Neither is necessarily true. If you haven't competed yet, you're self-grading the report before the teacher does--and if you've seen "A Christmas Story", you know what can happen with that.

I'm not saying that you don't have the best robot, I'm saying that you'll need to show that it deserves a place on the Ultimate Alliance.
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Re: 2008 Ultimate Alliance

1114, Team X, Team Y

Break out your lotto number drawing machines because it just doesn't matter.
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Re: 2008 Ultimate Alliance

I would go with 1114, 16, and 148 for my week 1 alliance. Two of the best hurdlers of week 1 and one of the fastest lap bots of week 1. There still plenty of regionals left and I am sure more great bots will emerge as the weeks go on.
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Re: 2008 Ultimate Alliance

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Break out your lotto number drawing machines because it just doesn't matter.
It most certainly does matter, the 2nd alliance at MWR played very close matches against the 3rd alliance, even defeating them once.
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Dang I just looked at my original post and I accidentaly wrote 118 for my first ultimate alliance. I meant 148 the robowranglers.

So mine would be 217, 1114, and 148.
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Way too early to tell. I'll weigh in during Week 7.
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Re: 2008 Ultimate Alliance

I'd like to see some robots play catch. Get my team, another catapult and a team that could dampen the ball. Get the 2 balls flying around the field so fast the refs won't be able to count it.
So, anyone know of another quick catapult?
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