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Re: First CROSSING not being scored?

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EDIT: Since there don't appear to be any glaring holes in my logic, I have posted a Q&A to bring this issue to FIRST's attention. Hopefully we will hear the official word before this weekend.
Still no response from GDC? I have been checking the Q&A, but haven't seen anything. Are they in a quandary?
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Re: First CROSSING not being scored?

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Re: First CROSSING not being scored?

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Still no response from GDC? I have been checking the Q&A, but haven't seen anything. Are they in a quandary?
It could be that they are busy.

Or it may be that this requires a rule change, but one which will not have any impact. In other words, they believed that the scoring program is correct (if indeed it doesn't score the first crossing if the robot hasn't left the home stretch in hybrid). If a rule change is necessary, to correct the rules to what has been happening in practice, it would come out in a Team Update. They have typically waited to issue the Q&A response until the Update appears.

Please note that the word "lap" is only used in the Game section of the rules in two contexts:
(1) In the first paragraph in a generalized description of the game
(2) In reference to the LAP INDICATOR
In all other instances, for example the scoring rules, "CROSS" (or some form of the word) is used.

I missed the Team Update 15 noted above before answering. My hunch was right, the scoring program was written in accordance with what the GDC intended the rule to be.
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Re: First CROSSING not being scored?

Thanks to Joey Gannon (and Karthk) for identifying this and posting it to the Q&A. I'm glad to see it clarified!
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Re: First CROSSING not being scored?

Apparently, I offended some people with the "tone" of my post. I apologize, that was not my intention. I was trying for levity, but apparently missed . In the end, the GDC admitted that the wording was misleading, but went with the intent of the rule.

I realize that it is extremely difficult to write a set of rules to meet an intent for a game that cannot be interpreted differently from that intent, and I applaud the efforts of the GDC to create a fair environment for all teams.
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