Protection to shooters

[BigJ]

It's looks to me like if you are moving towards the Overpass you are protected; if you are not moving, you don't have protection under the current rules.

[AdamHeard]

Originally Posted by BigJ

It's looks to me like if you are moving towards the Overpass you are protected; if you are not moving, you don't have protection under the current rules.

At San Diego no protection was given to shooters and often even interfering with arms/lifts wasn't called.

[Danny McC]

So does that mean an elevator up to stop a shot is legal?

[Mike Schreiber]

yes it means an elevator that stops, and is raising at ball at the specified is protected

[Danny McC]

I am saying if you want to play defense against a shooter and you put your elevator up is that legal? If your robot would be able to not tip.

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by Danny McC

I am saying if you want to play defense against a shooter and you put your elevator up is that legal? If your robot would be able to not tip.

Hmm..I get what you're saying, to me it sounds like that would be interference. Not sure though. Anyone else

[Danny McC]

Alrigght. Because me and thefro were talking about that as a way of defense. And before we try anything I just wanted to clarify wether it was legal or not.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Danny McC

Alrigght. Because me and thefro were talking about that as a way of defense. And before we try anything I just wanted to clarify wether it was legal or not.

It's legal, provided you don't contact the trackball until it was released.

And 842 should probably have been called for interference, because 39 satisfied all three requirements for protection (in the situation described). (moving towards overpass, has trackball, in own homestretch)

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by EricH

It's legal, provided you don't contact the trackball until it was released.

And 842 should probably have been called for interference, because 39 satisfied all three requirements for protection (in the situation described). (moving towards overpass, has trackball, in own homestretch)

Thanks for clarifying that, like I said, I wasn't sure. It sounds like a good strategy that we could use against those awesome shooters.

[Nuttyman54]

Shooters should be protected as long as they're moving towards the overpass. The rules state:

be moving toward the OVERPASS and/or elevating the TRACKBALL so that the top of the
TRACKBALL is higher than the LANE DIVIDER.

and/or seems to mean that you need to be doing at least one of the two (either moving towards or elevating) in order to be protected.

[Laaba 80]

Originally Posted by Danny McC

I am saying if you want to play defense against a shooter and you put your elevator up is that legal? If your robot would be able to not tip.

Just make sure your elevator can take that impact.
Joey

[N7UJJ]

Here is the video of the 39/842 semi final matches:

AZ Quarter Up to Finals
Start at 10:00 min or so and the other match at 24:03

You be the judge

[Donut]

Originally Posted by Danny McC

I am saying if you want to play defense against a shooter and you put your elevator up is that legal? If your robot would be able to not tip.

This is perfectly legal and was implemented at least twice by team 815 during the AZ regional.

[Wayne Doenges]

I am saying if you want to play defense against a shooter and you put your elevator up is that legal?

If you want to stop Team 1501, from hurdling, you better be able to raise your elevator at least 10' high
Otherwise we will clear you.

[Lil' Lavery]

At VCU, arms/lifts were protected pretty well, but shooters didn't get nearly as much. 1731 saw a little bit of protection, but their method of "shooting" involved raising the trackball. Most teams interfering with hurdling against shooters merely got in front of them and held them up as long as possible.