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Re: Protection to shooters
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I have not yet been down on the field for a match this year, but what constitutes "clearly shown that they are starting to fire"?? With your robot on the far side of the field from any driver that would be interfering with you I think things may not be so clear from their perspective. If you aren't moving towards the overpass or elevating the ball, you're fair game, plain and simple. These two criteria should be much easier to see and distinguish from the far side of the field vs. trying to tell when a shooter is starting to fire. This rule has been in place from the beginning and all teams had ample opportunity to design accordingly. |
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I am with you on your answer, I as trying to explain a possible reason why we were not penalized. It was my best guess. team 39 had a great bot, it was the only defense we had even if it ment penalties it was a risk we had to take. As the game went on and the penalties were not called, we thought we were good to go. I would have thought we would, but we did not. I guess we will see in the next regional. We are redisigning some thisngs anyway. That is one of the things we learned, launch while running!!!
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Re: Protection to shooters
The way I see it, the rules are very clear about when a shooter gets protection. Assume the shooter does not carry the ball so that it breaks the plane of the overpass, as defined in the rules. In that case, a shooter must be in its home stretch, posessing a ball, and moving towards the overpass.
If the shooter doesn't have to stop to shoot, then even better: as the robot starts raising the ball (shooting), it will still comply with the conditions for protection. If the shooter has to stop, it should be vulnerable to defense (losing protection), until it starts shooting. I'll definitely check with the SVR head ref about how they're calling it, as we'll take any protection we can get. |
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Yes this is why we are modifying to shoot on the run.
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I thought of one question though, how do you know when a shooter is going to hurdle. He migt just be running through under the overpass. Maybe this is why the refs didn't penalize us? They could not tell if the bot was going to fire????
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Re: Protection to shooters
According to the rule, that doesn't matter. The shooter just needs to (a) be in their Home Stretch, (b) have possession of the trackball, and (c) be moving towards the overpass.
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Re: Protection to shooters
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Re: Protection to shooters
Here is the video of the 39/842 semi final matches:
AZ Quarter Up to Finals Start at 10:00 min or so and the other match at 24:03 You be the judge ![]() Last edited by N7UJJ : 09-03-2008 at 22:54. |
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This is perfectly legal and was implemented at least twice by team 815 during the AZ regional.
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Otherwise we will clear you. |
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