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Re: Predictions Week 3: Fighting for Position

The only real predictions anyone can make are the predicitions of robots you have already seen in action. You can make a case for any team that has built great robots in the past will produce great robots this year, but there is not a single bit of evidance that will point to any team that hasn't proven it's ability yet as a viable contendor for any regional.

The best hurdlers around can not compete without another exceptional hurdler at their side. This was seen very much in NJ when 1114 was blocked constantly. They would have lost that match if it wasn't for the shooting power of 1024. 1114 could have been shut down in an instant if it wasn't for their partner.

Put both of these two together and you have the following: Not a single robot can bring a team to victory, and any team who has a proven record of getting things done are the only teams that are going to shine and pick/get picked.

idk, my reasoning kinda sounds like blabbering. haha
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The best hurdlers around can not compete without another exceptional hurdler at their side. This was seen very much in NJ when 1114 was blocked constantly. They would have lost that match if it wasn't for the shooting power of 1024. 1114 could have been shut down in an instant if it wasn't for their partner.
NJ or MWR? 1114 and 1024 weren't at NJ. Or were you thinking of 25 and 103?
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Thanks, Honest for your kind words about Metal In Motion and the Peachtree Regional. I hope you are correct althought I would'nt count anybody out until the final tick of the clock has sounded. We have been surprised before. I look forward to reading and seeing how eveyone does this weekend.

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The best hurdlers around can not compete without another exceptional hurdler at their side. This was seen very much in NJ when 1114 was blocked constantly. They would have lost that match if it wasn't for the shooting power of 1024. 1114 could have been shut down in an instant if it wasn't for their partner.

Put both of these two together and you have the following: Not a single robot can bring a team to victory, and any team who has a proven record of getting things done are the only teams that are going to shine and pick/get picked.

Depends on the regional, and the robot, etc. 39 had no problem completely dominating the Arizona regional by themselves, and they were the only robot that could hurdle (or even manipulate the ball for that matter) on their winning alliance.
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The best hurdlers around can not compete without another exceptional hurdler at their side. This was seen very much in NJ when 1114 was blocked constantly. They would have lost that match if it wasn't for the shooting power of 1024. 1114 could have been shut down in an instant if it wasn't for their partner.
St. Louis??? winning alliance of 1 hurdler and 2 lap bots. Highest score in elims was 122 minus one penalty. I disagree that defense can do anything in this game. The team that resorts to defense is sealing their fate.
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The only real predictions anyone can make are the predicitions of robots you have already seen in action. You can make a case for any team that has built great robots in the past will produce great robots this year, but there is not a single bit of evidance that will point to any team that hasn't proven it's ability yet as a viable contendor for any regional.

The best hurdlers around can not compete without another exceptional hurdler at their side. This was seen very much in NJ when 1114 was blocked constantly. They would have lost that match if it wasn't for the shooting power of 1024. 1114 could have been shut down in an instant if it wasn't for their partner.

Put both of these two together and you have the following: Not a single robot can bring a team to victory, and any team who has a proven record of getting things done are the only teams that are going to shine and pick/get picked.

idk, my reasoning kinda sounds like blabbering. haha
Team 11 was the only hurdler for the #8 alliance in Chesapeake and they went on to win all of their Elimination matches. So with the right strategy a single hurdler can do it on its on, given their partners stick to the jobs the alliance determined.
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When they show up on Thursday, the team from Bloomfield Hills will likely still be assembling, adjusting, and finishing up their machine. But that never seems to stop 469 from flat out winning. Las Guerillas is one of the best teams in Michigan, and FIRST. With their roller powered adjustable intake, 4-bar arm, and maneuverable swerve, I expect nothing less than the finals from 469.
Surprisingly, we don't actually have all that much to do tomorrow. It may be one of those rare times when we go out on the field on practice day =D

Hopefully we'll be able to live up to your expectations ^.^

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Re: Predictions Week 3: Fighting for Position

Trust me, the autonomous is only scary if its barreling down the other side of the track at you, and you are unsure if the bot is going to spare your life and make the turn.

...considering that im still alive you can assume it made the turn

thanks for the uplifting words!
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P.S. We built a new supporting circuit for our fancy schmancy on-board display so that it won't blank out as easily during heavy battery use characteristic of competition.

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I saw your bot down in Midwest--what exactly does it display, anyway?
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I saw your bot down in Midwest--what exactly does it display, anyway?
It varies. For now, during Autonomous mode it displays the robot's relative heading as well as any states or faults that may occur during autonomous (example, dOnE)

It's true that the robot used to display ft/sec during autonomous as well, but since the fire we've had some fun little eh... abnormalities in the autonomous system we're still hammering out.

During Teleoperated mode, the robot displays the combined vector (real) velocity of the robot in ft/sec. For instance: since the robot is differential drive, if it were spinning perfectly in place, the speed would read zero.

The value the display reads can easily be changed by pressing different buttons on the OI panel to read values such as left/right encoder counts, gyro data, arm position, etc.

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p.s. We didn't install the voltage conversion circuit until Saturday morning, but there was a huge reduction in the number of times it blanked out due to low battery voltage (fast robot = lots of energy usage).
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Re: Predictions Week 3: Fighting for Position

I can´t believe how right-on these predictions were for Detroit.

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[Chickens] will be taking home at least one gold medal
Chickens were just as good as predicted, and did take home a gold medal.

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[27 and 47 are] some of the most feared teams in FIRST.
Chiefs and RUSH were among the best robots there, seeding within the top 5.

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Unless they can align themselves with 217 or 469, I don't see either of these teams [47 / 27] adding another blue banner to their collection.
After 469&217 were paired, 27 and 47 paired up - however, they were defeated in Finals. However, RUSH had major problems with their drive train, I´m not sure if it still affected them during the finals matches. Congratz to RUSH for winning Chairman´s, though!

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EXACTLY what happened

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Re: Predictions Week 3: Fighting for Position

i was excited for the correct prediction of 343 taking the gold at peachtree... thanks to 1319 and 547!
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i was excited for the correct prediction of 343 taking the gold at palmetto... thanks to 1319 and 547!
Hey Chris, We meant to look you up at Peachtree but ran out of time .. Stop by and say "hi" at Palmetto.

You guys were amazing ...

See you in 10 days ..

p.s. How about YOUR predictions and inside info for Palmetto? Come-on, give us a scouting dump ...
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