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Re: Archiving Recorded Regionals 2008

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iMovie would be able to do this, assuming you have a big enough hd for the footage.
Any ideas on how much space would be needed for the three days of footage? 20 gigs? 40? I need to know if I need to bring an extra hard-drive...

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Re: Archiving Recorded Regionals 2008

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Any ideas on how much space would be needed for the three days of footage? 20 gigs? 40? I need to know if I need to bring an extra hard-drive...

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DV at 720x480 (SD) is typically 1 gb for every 10 minutes. It is a very large lossless format that is mainly used in digital video editing. Is there any other codec you could use?
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Re: Archiving Recorded Regionals 2008

I've created a page on FIRSTwiki to store all of the information about archiving and webcasting in one place. I've tried to fill in what I could, but that's not much.
If those of you with experience could add to it, that would be very helpful to all of us who are doing this for the first time.
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Re: Archiving Recorded Regionals 2008

We used a Panasonic DVR (it has a hard drive and a DVD burner) to record the St. Louis Regional. It had 19 hours of hard drive space available. It was recorded in SP mode and after it was split on the recorder, it took 6+ DVD's to copy the data to, which was then reformatted on the pc and trimmed up before uploading.

I'm not sure if that helps or not..
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Re: Archiving Recorded Regionals 2008

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DV at 720x480 (SD) is typically 1 gb for every 10 minutes. It is a very large lossless format that is mainly used in digital video editing. Is there any other codec you could use?
Thanks for the information. Does anyone know a better way to record on a mac? Are there any programs that just can record video feeds from a firewire input? Or can you just change the import format in iMovie? (The computers we will be recording with aren't with me right now) Thanks!
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Re: Archiving Recorded Regionals 2008

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Thanks for the information. Does anyone know a better way to record on a mac? Are there any programs that just can record video feeds from a firewire input? Or can you just change the import format in iMovie? (The computers we will be recording with aren't with me right now) Thanks!
That depends on your input device. Some are DV only, some could encode into MPEG-4 or divx also.

What I use is a cheap DVD recorder from Panasonic. Its great, and I don't have to worry about anyone steeling an expensive laptop. A PVR would be a better solution, because you wouldn't have to worry about the switching the DVDs.

If you are looking for a good input device for your laptop you can check out El Gato's Hybrid or the 250 +. Both can encode a lot of video without using a lot of disk space.
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Re: Archiving Recorded Regionals 2008

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That depends on your input device. Some are DV only, some could encode into MPEG-4 or divx also.

What I use is a cheap DVD recorder from Panasonic. Its great, and I don't have to worry about anyone steeling an expensive laptop. A PVR would be a better solution, because you wouldn't have to worry about the switching the DVDs.

If you are looking for a good input device for your laptop you can check out El Gato's Hybrid or the 250 +. Both can encode a lot of video without using a lot of disk space.
I have a Sony DVMC-DA2 (Maybe a DA1). (http://www.shopping.com/xPF-Sony-DVMC-DA2-DVM-CDA2) Does anyone have any experience recording regionals with them? They seem to have some sort of hardware conversion system...
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Re: Archiving Recorded Regionals 2008

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What I have always done with capturing MiniDV video to my computer is to capture it in DV format (1 hour is from 11-14 GB ), transcode it to DivX (1 hour is usually between 800 MB and 1.5 GB, depending on original quality and randomness of video), and delete the original video. You could probably transcode to mp4 instead if you wanted too, just as long as the quality stays near the same. This method especially helps when needing to capture 15+ tapes for a video project .
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Re: Archiving Recorded Regionals 2008

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What I have always done with capturing MiniDV video to my computer is to capture it in DV format (1 hour is from 11-14 GB ), transcode it to DivX (1 hour is usually between 800 MB and 1.5 GB, depending on original quality and randomness of video), and delete the original video. You could probably transcode to mp4 instead if you wanted too, just as long as the quality stays near the same. This method especially helps when needing to capture 15+ tapes for a video project .
Hmm...sounds good. I am looking into maybe borrowing a faster computer so I can use something like Quicktime Broadcaster (apparently it can record in h.264 to the disk from a DV input). That way I wouldn't have to use so much disk space.
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Re: Archiving Recorded Regionals 2008

We still have a couple regionals that need to be covered for week 3, is anyone out there willing/planing to record; Chesapeake Regional, Connecticut Regional, Detroit Regional, Peachtree Regional
Pittsburgh Regional.

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Rochester Rally                                 Ed Patterson (Koko Ed, team 191)
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BAE Systems Granite State Regional              Kyle Fenton (team 121) *may need parser
Midwest Regional                                WildStang 111 (possibly...)
New Jersey Regional                             SOAP (team 108)
Oregon Regional                                 Madison Krass (M. Krass, team 488)
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Arizona Regional                                Andrew (Donut, team 498)
Finger Lakes Regional                           Ed Patterson (Koko Ed, team 191)
Greater Kansas City Regional
NASA / VCU Regional                             Anish (aksimhal, team 1123)
San Diego Regional                              AJ (ay2b, team 980)
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Boilermaker Regional                            Mike Aalderink (mike AA, team 2015)
Brazil Regional                                 sloteera (team 1860), Bruno (Thexder, team 1382)
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Connecticut Regional 
Detroit Regional 
Florida Regional                                SOAP (team 108)
Peachtree Regional 
Pittsburgh Regional 
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Wisconsin Regional                              Kevin Kolodziej  (team 1675)
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Buckeye Regional                                David Thomas (blakcheez, team 964)
Lone Star Regional                              Kevin Sevcik (team 57)
Los Angeles Regional                            AJ (ay2b, team 980)
Microsoft Seattle Regional                      Madison Krass (M. Krass, team 488)
Oklahoma City Regional 
UC Davis Sacramento Regional                    Doug G (team 701)
Waterloo Regional                               Jonathan Norris (team 610)
West Michigan Regional                          Mike Aalderink (mike AA, team 2015)
Israel Regional 
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Boston Regional                                 Greg Marra (The Blue Alliance)
Colorado Regional 
Great Lakes Regional 
Greater Toronto Regional 
Hawaii Regional 
Las Vegas Regional 
Minnesota Regional                              Kevin O'Connor (Vikesrock, team 2175)
Palmetto Regional 
Philadelphia Regional
SBPLI Long Island Regional 
Championship                                    SOAP (team 108)
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Re: Archiving Recorded Regionals 2008

We're willing to help record the Peachtree (week 3) and Palmetto (5) regionals, however we're not sure we have the right equipment. We have a member with a RCA cable that he says can plug in to his computer, but is not sure that is the easiest way. Could we use a DVD player or VCR?
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Re: Archiving Recorded Regionals 2008

I talked to the crew from 230 who are webcasting the Connecticut Regional. They intend to archive all of the matches to DVD for conversion / parsing later on.
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Re: Archiving Recorded Regionals 2008

I recorded all of Chesapeake on Friday in the h.264 format. I plan to do the same tomorrow--I'm just not sure how long it will take me to edit it (cutting out the time between matches and scores, etc) I think some other teams also recorded it? Could we work together?
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Re: Archiving Recorded Regionals 2008

I just purchased a Pinnacle Video Transfer which records in H.264 directly to an external hard drive (no computer needed).

I will be testing it out at the Los Angeles Regional.
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Re: Archiving Recorded Regionals 2008

Someone was using one of these at Boilermaker this weekend and it seemed to work well and very easy to setup. I was interested, but I dont like the external harddrive thing... although you can swap drives (he used a usb flash drive) and download to a computer.

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