Is this fair?

[PinionTwister]

It is unfortunate that problems like this occurs in FIRST. I don't blame the officials or the inspectors - they are volunteers. What I blame is common sense - we have GP to cover everything but we (as a FIRST community) do not have common sense when these issues arise.

FIRST is about building robots. FIRST is about working with teammates. FIRST is about learning. FIRST is about working with mentors. FIRST is a great experience.

Should we really throw all of that away because a sticker was not properly signed before being placed on the robot? Is the schedule SO important that we can't take 5 minutes to find the answer?

If the issue is safety related I cannot agree more - remove the robot from competition. If it is not safety related then let common sense take over and make a judgement call (what the referre should do).

Lastly, I checked section 3 of the competition manual relating to inspection. It clearly states that the robot needs to be inspected. It says nothing about a "signed" sticker before we can go on the field.

[dlavery]

Originally Posted by Shyguynate64

All I have to say is that at least this didnt happen in one of the final matches that actually count. You guys still have the chance to do good. Like others have said already, just because you dont have a high standing, doesn't mean that you wont get picked, we've all seen it happen before.

The trick to getting through life is to learn to roll with the punches.

Originally Posted by PinionTwister

Should we really throw all of that away because a sticker was not properly signed before being placed on the robot? Is the schedule SO important that we can't take 5 minutes to find the answer?

If the issue is safety related I cannot agree more - remove the robot from competition. If it is not safety related then let common sense take over and make a judgement call (what the referre should do).

Lastly, I checked section 3 of the competition manual relating to inspection. It clearly states that the robot needs to be inspected. It says nothing about a "signed" sticker before we can go on the field.

Please note that this thread is from last year (2007), not this year.

[Protronie]

No its not fair but it happens... you could just kick up a fuzz and hold an 'tude or shake it off and think of it as a learning experience.
For now on I'm sure your team and any others that hear of this will make sure the inspection sticker gets signed. I'm sure the inspector will do the same so this has just helped First and all the teams learn.
Everyone that puts on or works in a event like this has a million and one things on their minds, and a thousand new things to learn.
Like you've never overlooked anything where someone said, "you should have known"
Just buckle up and move on... it will show your good character.

[Uberbots]

rank really doesnt mean much. Its the performance of your robot on the field. If your robot performs well, but is paired with a bad alliance or is against a tough alliance, the scouts on other teams will note it.

If it makes you feel any better, yesterday we picked team 716, who really wasnt doing that well in the rankings, yet had a very god robot that perfectly fit into the alliance we were trying to create. and guess what? we won the competition.

considering the competition is probably over, just keep this in mind for future years, and dont let a simple mistake of the inspectors get you down. As they say, "shift happens".

[647techangel]

no its not fair but who ever said life was

[IndySam]

Originally Posted by Shyguynate64

All I have to say is that at least this didnt happen in one of the final matches that actually count. You guys still have the chance to do good. Like others have said already, just because you dont have a high standing, doesn't mean that you wont get picked, we've all seen it happen before.

The trick to getting through life is to learn to roll with the punches.

Why did you resurrect last years thread?

Can the mods close this?

[AllieLallah15]

Originally Posted by wilsonmw04

No one is to blame. FIRST didn't do this. The Ref didn't do this. The Inspector didn't do this. It was an accident. No one wanted you to miss your match. To make you feel a bit better, Rank means nothing in this game. One of the best scorers at VCU was in the low 40's at the end of the round-robin and went to the QF's.

It's not fair. it's not right, but stuff like this happens. If you don't get picked for finals tomorrow, get in those stands and cheer for those who did. Remember, this is FIRST.

He's right. My team's power cord disconnected during the hybrid period of the final match so we got second instead of winning, but stuff happens. You just accept it graciously, and keep cheering for others and yourselves. It's no one's fault.

[Nawaid Ladak]

just letting you guys know that this team (1694) folded because the teacher left.

the teacher left because of limited student involvement.

there was limited student involvement because of another mentor on this team and somewhat of their lack of success... along with this incident...

im with 945 right now, and i somewhat see the same situation. the mentor comes up with a design and the team has to stick to it. or they have to do a lot of convincing to change the design.

i came from a team where students came up with ideas and we would al make a design decision together.

many ideas are better than just one for designing a robot. thats how you get the best outcome and performance

o by the way, i got over this issue a long time ago

[Shyguynate64]

Originally Posted by IndySam

Why did you resurrect last years thread?

Can the mods close this?

Wow I didn't even realize lol... Silly small dates...