POLL ONLY. SVR F-3

[Guy Davidson]

Joey, really? Is it on any official FIRST document that is given to the MCs?

[jgannon]

Originally Posted by sumadin

Joey, really? Is it on any official FIRST document that is given to the MCs?

I have been told that it is part of the script that the MCs are given. I have heard this phrase spoken immediately after the referees are introduced at Midwest, Finger Lakes, and Pittsburgh this year.

[Guy Davidson]

Originally Posted by jgannon

I have been told that it is part of the script that the MCs are given. I have heard this phrase spoken immediately after the referees are introduced at Midwest, Finger Lakes, and Pittsburgh this year.

Thanks. That's good to know.

[Bill Gold]

Originally Posted by jgannon

I have been told that it is part of the script that the MCs are given. I have heard this phrase spoken immediately after the referees are introduced at Midwest, Finger Lakes, and Pittsburgh this year.

I've heard it, myself, over my years in FIRST, but there is also precedent for replays in both past seasons as well as the rules. Basically, I think that when the MCs say this it's meaning that there won't be "do overs" for things that aren't explicitly outlined in the rules of each competition (field malfunction, referee having a stroke, etc). Meaning that a team not being ready for a match because they haven't had enough time to strategize or because a driver had to go to the bathroom or hasn't gotten back from Wendy's doesn't count as a "do overable" event.

[jgannon]

Originally Posted by Bill Gold

Basically, I think that when the MCs say this it's meaning that there won't be "do overs" for things that aren't explicitly outlined in the rules of each competition (field malfunction, referee having a stroke, etc).

Right... I've always assumed that the MCs are really talking about any situations where "do overs" are not explicitly allowed by <T16>. That's why I'm surprised about all this.

[Bill Gold]

Originally Posted by jgannon

Right... I've always assumed that the MCs are really talking about any situations where "do overs" are not explicitly allowed by <T16>. That's why I'm surprised about all this.

Let me preface this with the fact that I don't have a personal opinion on this issue.

There was a fairly reasonable argument made at some point in the SVR thread that a field personnel malfunction which is apparently part of T16 or another rule that talks about "do over" matches (admittedly, it has been 2 years since I've been involved in FIRST to the extent that I've memorized the rules) could also be extended to cover referee brain-farts.