Scoring incorrect

[catsylve]

We did indeed have a match put up on the scoreboard with an incorrect score at one regional and the members of my team were highly upset because it was a critical match. After the regional was over, however, I made them watch the replay and count the scoring for BOTH alliances. At this point, they saw that the other team's score was not reported correctly either and they had still beaten our alliance. Most probably, the mistake was in not putting the FINAL score up on the screen correctly, not a fault of the referees.

I find that it helps to remind my team that the real reason they are doing this is to learn and develop skills. The game and any mistakes that can be made will never be able to negate what they have gained by working with the mentors. The game is supposed to be fun!

[Rick TYler]

Originally Posted by catsylve

Most probably, the mistake was in not putting the FINAL score up on the screen correctly, not a fault of the referees.

It's just about impossible for a Scorekeeper to display the wrong score. The scorekeeper doesn't enter laps or hurdles, they are done automatically based on counters and the data entry pads held by the referees. The only time the scorekeeper actually changes the scoring is by entering the number of penalties and G14 bonus scores at the end of the match, or by entering corrections to the lap scores (which the refs give to the scorekeeper). In this year's game, there is no scoring actually done by the scorekeepers. So, "putting the final score up" incorrectly can only be done if the scorekeepers don't wait for adjustments from the referees before pushing the "commit score" button. This would only happen once! Not to be a "blame them" kind of person, but in "Overdrive" any scoring mistakes would most likely be with the refs or the electronics, since the scorekeepers would have to really, really try to display any score other than what the refs intended.

Rick "Trained scorekeeper" TYler

[AcesPease]

Originally Posted by Rick TYler

It's just about impossible for a Scorekeeper to display the wrong score. The scorekeeper doesn't enter laps or hurdles, they are done automatically based on counters and the data entry pads held by the referees. The only time the scorekeeper actually changes the scoring is by entering the number of penalties and G14 bonus scores at the end of the match, or by entering corrections to the lap scores (which the refs give to the scorekeeper). In this year's game, there is no scoring actually done by the scorekeepers. So, "putting the final score up" incorrectly can only be done if the scorekeepers don't wait for adjustments from the referees before pushing the "commit score" button. This would only happen once! Not to be a "blame them" kind of person, but in "Overdrive" any scoring mistakes would most likely be with the refs or the electronics, since the scorekeepers would have to really, really try to display any score other than what the refs intended.

Rick "Trained scorekeeper" TYler

I think I misunderstood the poll. We had two quarter finals where the penalties were deducted from the wrong alliance causing the offending alliance to be reported as the winner of the round. Both scores were then corrected.

[Daniel Bathgate]

Originally Posted by Rick TYler

It's just about impossible for a Scorekeeper to display the wrong score. The scorekeeper doesn't enter laps or hurdles, they are done automatically based on counters and the data entry pads held by the referees. The only time the scorekeeper actually changes the scoring is by entering the number of penalties and G14 bonus scores at the end of the match, or by entering corrections to the lap scores (which the refs give to the scorekeeper). In this year's game, there is no scoring actually done by the scorekeepers. So, "putting the final score up" incorrectly can only be done if the scorekeepers don't wait for adjustments from the referees before pushing the "commit score" button. This would only happen once! Not to be a "blame them" kind of person, but in "Overdrive" any scoring mistakes would most likely be with the refs or the electronics, since the scorekeepers would have to really, really try to display any score other than what the refs intended.

Rick "Trained scorekeeper" TYler

If that is so, how come our alliance's score before it was corrected in our first qualification match was odd? One note: SVR did not use the IR lap counters and was counting all laps by hand, and the scorekeeper requested to see the list of red laps again to correct the score. I'm sure the counting laps as one point each wasn't intentional by any party, so it is certainly possible for the scorekeeper to misscore a game (especially early on Friday).

Perhaps a good practice would be for all teams to pay extra attention to the score of their first match on Friday to help make the rest of the matches go smoothly and correctly.

[Rick TYler]

Originally Posted by Daniel Bathgate

If that is so, how come our alliance's score before it was corrected in our first qualification match was odd?

The scorekeeping software has a manual adjustment function, which allows the scorekeeper to enter a total manually. Sounds like the scorekeeper made a mistake. (Please, Lord, don't let it be me next time...)

[Daniel Bathgate]

Originally Posted by Rick TYler

The scorekeeping software has a manual adjustment function, which allows the scorekeeper to enter a total manually. Sounds like the scorekeeper made a mistake. (Please, Lord, don't let it be me next time...)

Ah. I was curious as to how that worked. Scorekeeping must be one horrible job - no one even thinks of it unless something goes horribly wrong, at which point everyone is angry (of which I've certainly been guilty). Good luck with your scoring and thanks for volunteering in such an important position!