More Scoring Issues...

[65_Xero_Huskie]

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol

You can only be Hurdling in your own Home Stretch. If you are trying to place the Trackball on the opposite Overpass, you have no protection.

That explains why there were no calls on some of the times i was thinking of.
Seems like a faulty rule imo tho. Robots should have full protection if they are a hurdler.

[Rick TYler]

RE: <G42> was the second-most-called penalty in Seattle. I counted penalties from the scorer's table (there's not much to do DURING the match, except watch ), and I rarely saw a penalty that wasn't called.

One of the things that made Seattle's officiating good, in my opinion, was the number of referees we had. Head ref Fred (a very experienced FRC ref, by the way) had 11 people around the field, and he said that he doesn't think this game can be accurately called with fewer. At the end of each match Fred would hand me a scoring sheet with Red and Blue sections, with each robot listed, and penalties written under the team numbers. We would verbally confirm the sheet, I would enter the penalties and bonuses, and then hand the sheet to Don, our announcer who would then read them. By the time Don was announcing, the final score was ready to display. After the first hour or so on Monday, I think we only delayed two or three matches waiting for the refs to finish discussing the events of a match.

[Kate00]

Originally Posted by Bochek

I agree, well allmost, The people who where queuing us (waiting to play) where very nice and orginized.

On the other hand, the lady who was trying to get robots off the field, was quite the opposite, We had the smallest car there. and we where constantly being yelled at, not told, to move hurry up and leave, she didn't even want us to remove our flag from the bot before leaving. If we where any longer then about a full 5 seconds i would get an earful every single time. I found her to be quite rude.

Besides that, that was a perfectly ran event, everything was planned spot on and it ran like clockwork.

- Bochek

Please, if you have a problem with a specific volunteer, bring it up to their supervisor, or someone in a position of power. If a volunteer is being rude, chances are the supervisor of the volunteer has no idea how they are acting. We want to give everyone a fantastic experience at FIRST events, and if a volunteer is ruining that for you, we want to try and fix that. The volunteers are there to make sure you have the best event possible, please, if you have a problem, let us know.

[Paul Copioli]

I was the game announcer at Waterloo and can tell you that the reffing was the best I have seen, by far. G22 was the most called penalty by over a factor of 8:1. The total amount of G42 penalties called all weekend was 11. I marked down every penalty for every match and recorded which team received the penalty. Manny (head ref) recited every penalty to me prior to the announcement of the score.

G42 is like pass interference in football as there is some level of subjectivity. I saw some instances where I may have called G42, but the crew was consistent in calling those matches. I doubt there was anyone at Waterloo paying more attention to penalties and how they were called than me.

With regards to the hybrid scoring, they got the scores correct. In some instances, the real time scoring wasn't accurate but the final accounting was accurate. Apparenty, when a ref hits the und button (after getting trigger happy) the score does not "undo" on the real time screen, but the actual score does update. We triple checked a few (including the 168 match because we just couldn't believe it) because of this discrepancy.

The refs were great at Waterloo and if the rest of the season is reffed this way, the game will be much, much better. I can say this: teams just don't get it when it comes to G22. I watched during many matches at the drivers when a G22 occured and they just weren't looking. They would cross a line when going for a ball and wouldn't see it.

Paul

[Brandon Holley]

Originally Posted by Kate Mosley

Please, if you have a problem with a specific volunteer, bring it up to their supervisor, or someone in a position of power. If a volunteer is being rude, chances are the supervisor of the volunteer has no idea how they are acting. We want to give everyone a fantastic experience at FIRST events, and if a volunteer is ruining that for you, we want to try and fix that. The volunteers are there to make sure you have the best event possible, please, if you have a problem, let us know.

Kate I am glad you brought this up because its nice to know people are still trying to make sure the event is as fun as possible.