2008 Greater Toronto Regional!

[Vince lau]

Originally Posted by astephen68

yes 1114 does scouting but what about their second pick. they know that their going to win so they chose a ok or bad robot fro their third pick to win with so to look good and less competition in atlanta. Also 1114 most of the times at regionals that the teams they mentor or were mentored by them are their they chose them like this years waterloo. 1114,2056,1608.....

I have to disagree with you here, First, no team even knows they are going to win for sure, they might be favourites, but they aren't guaranteed to win, there are always upsets.
and by saying that they pick a ok or bad robot as a second pick, just so they look good and so there will be less competition at the championships. i think you just disrespect the all the hard work those teams put into their robot. I'm not speaking for 1114, but i think that they pick the best team out of the remaining teams that they think will be best for the alliance. 2006 Waterloo for example 1114 and 1503 picked 1281 as the last pick, the reason they picked us was because of our drive system and from their scouting they knew that we would be able to play good defense for them.
1114 knows how to scout and I think they have some of the best scouts out there.

[astephen68]

The only thing bad about this years completion anywhere is that you can't play defence like the other years. Like other years you could defeat the #1 seeded alliance, you could win with an 8th place seed this year you can't

[Nawaid Ladak]

Originally Posted by astephen68

The only thing bad about this years completion anywhere is that you can't play defence like the other years. Like other years you could defeat the #1 seeded alliance, you could win with an 8th place seed this year you can't

The Defense i agree with

but the rest, 8v1 is a different case a each regional. Midwest was packed, while waterloo had 2056, 1114, and the rest of the robots were nowhere near their level of play.

if you want to prove this theory, let me know when championships come around

[astephen68]

Originally Posted by Nawaid Ladak

The Defense i agree with

but the rest, 8v1 is a different case a each regional. Midwest was packed, while waterloo had 2056, 1114, and the rest of the robots were nowhere near their level of play.

if you want to prove this theory, let me know when championships come around

very true and actually i forgot about one alliance member on our alliance when we were the 8th seeded alliance vs #1which was 1114,2056,1608. 2056 couldn't pick up the ball because our alliance partner 2361 pushed their ball around the course. if our alliance partner did that to 1114 they couldn't have score by hurdling they could still race but we would have had a better chance.The only way to defeat teams like this is to push their pall around because if they cannot hurdle they have a better chance of losing

[Travis Hoffman]

Originally Posted by astephen68

The only thing bad about this years completion anywhere is that you can't play defence like the other years. Like other years you could defeat the #1 seeded alliance, you could win with an 8th place seed this year you can't

I think the inability of an alliance to do anything to repress an opponent's hybrid mode proficiency is the number one contributor to "super" alliance success at regionals this season. Alliances without spiffy hybrids are frequently sunk by 40+ points by those with awesome modes before they even touch the controls. Very hard to overcome that, whether you can play D during teleop or not.

It's a case of the match being over before it even started. And the crowd goes wild!.....

But yes, at the Championship, more lower-seeded alliances will also possess effective hybrid modes, so the hybrid gap will not be as insurmountable as often, and they will have a better shot at unseating the top seeds in Atlanta.

If you have a strong hybrid mode, you will make an attractive 2nd pick selection for most picking teams at the Georgia Dome.

[Richard Wallace]

So, predictions? I'll go out on a limb and project 1114 as the #1 seed. They can't seem to score in less than triple digits.

[Joe Ross]

Originally Posted by Richard

So, predictions? I'll go out on a limb and project 1114 as the #1 seed. They can't seem to score in less than triple digits.

The only way 1114 does not get #1 seed is if 188 or 2056's opponents score 200+ points and still lose.

[Richard Wallace]

Originally Posted by Joe Ross

The only way 1114 does not get #1 seed is if 188 or 2056's opponents score 200+ points and still lose.

Yeah, I didn't say it was much of limb.

So, 1114 picks 2056. 188 picks 176. 1114/2056 put up a 200+ score in the quarterfinals. The finals go three matches.

[astephen68]

Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman

I think the inability of an alliance to do anything to repress an opponent's hybrid mode proficiency is the number one contributor to "super" alliance success at regionals this season. Alliances without spiffy hybrids are frequently sunk by 40+ points by those with awesome modes before they even touch the controls. Very hard to overcome that, whether you can play D during teleop or not.

It's a case of the match being over before it even started. And the crowd goes wild!.....

.

You coul always get the alliance during eliination rounds program their robot to go foward and bloakc the side form other teams going around meaing like this



| robot #1
his is the line |
| Robot#2
|
|Robot#3

it effectivil;y blocks the other team getting a second ball and getting 2-3 more lines
so it will limit them to only 16 points

[Bochek]

Coming from a team competing at GTR, i was appalled at the quality of the reffing. Multiple times i took video footage evidence to the head ref and he basically told me to suck it up and leave.

I have seen several other teams get in a good argument with the head ref. I even went and talked to him when the penalties where against our alliance just to show how inconsistent the reffing was. If anyone just watched the final match, the only penilty given to the red alliance was 1 <G22> to 1114, when there where a clear 2 and possible 3 infractions. Also, they somehow managed to score a hurdle in hybrid mode (at the same time they got a <G22>)

I was very disappointed how rude the ref was to myself and anyone else who went to go clarify any calls.

I would like to hear if any other teams from GTR had the same thoughts or feelings.

- Bochek

[Richard Wallace]

Originally Posted by Bochek

Coming from a team competing at GTR, i was appalled at the quality of the reffing. Multiple times i took video footage evidence to the head ref and he basically told me to suck it up and leave.

...

The info under your name in the post above lists your team role as "Mentor". If that is correct, then you should know (per rule <T04> in section 9.6.2 of the 2008 FRC Manual) that only pre-college students are permitted to interact with the Head Referee for clarification of rulings or scores. And whether you are a mentor or a pre-college student, rule <T03> (same section) clearly states that referees will not review recorded replays under any circumstances.

[Bochek]

Ah i have allready changed my status in preperation for next year, i am still pre-collage and still attend the highschool and act as a team member.

I understand that they do not accept video footage. When i went up, i told the ref that I was not trying to affect the scores, just to make sure that he knew what was happening, but he woulden't hear a word of it.

-Bochek

[Gaurav27]

Thanks to Team 1565: T3 Think Tank Technologies and Team 781: Kinetic Knights for getting us to the Semi Finals!

Congratulations to Teams 1114 Simbotics on their 3rd regional win, 2056 Patriotics on winning both their attended regionals and 2166 Bluebotics on their win!

Good luck to 1114 Simbotics and 1547 Where's Waldo in Atlanta with Chairmans, keep striving to be the first Canadian Chairmans winners..

And everyone who made it an amazing regional to watch!

[IntensifiedAmp]

Originally Posted by Gaurav27

Thanks to Team 1565: T3 Think Tank Technologies and Team 781: Kinetic Knights for getting us to the Semi Finals!

Congratulations to Teams 1114 Simbotics on their 3rd regional win, 2056 Patriotics on winning both their attended regionals and 2166 Bluebotics on their win!

Good luck to 1114 in Atlanta with Chairmans, keep striving to be the first Canadian Chairmans winners..

And everyone who made it an amazing regional to watch!

Don't forget 'Where's Waldo?', Team 1547. Congrats on them specifically on winning the Regional Chair(person)'s Award.

[T3_1565]

Originally Posted by Gaurav27

Thanks to Team 1565: T3 Think Tank Technologies and Team 781: Kinetic Knights for getting us to the Semi Finals!

Congratulations to Teams 1114 Simbotics on their 3rd regional win, 2056 Patriotics on winning both their attended regionals and 2166 Bluebotics on their win!

Good luck to 1114 Simbotics and 1547 Where's Waldo in Atlanta with Chairmans, keep striving to be the first Canadian Chairmans winners..

And everyone who made it an amazing regional to watch!

We would also like to thank 1241 and 781 for the awesome alliance!!

and congrats to 1114 for beating us again in semis!! we got closer this time then waterloo, but.. still no good

congrats to all winners good luck in Atlanta!!! win the gold for Canada!!