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Offensive Power Rankings for 2008
Inspired by a post by sw293 in one of my long-past stats threads from 2006, I re-implemented his/her Offensive Power Rankings algorithm. Essentially, it tries to determine approximately how much each team, on average, contributed to their alliance.
You can see the math behind it detailed here: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...0&postcount=19. In essence, it looks at a team's accumulated score over the course of a weekend as a sum of the offensive power ratings of all the other teams, multiplied by the number of times that team was paired with each team. Example: 1565's first match at GTR was with 2198 and 1870, and they played 8 matches total. The '...' would be all their other alliance partners through qualifying, multiplied each time by how many times they were allied with them. TotalScore(1565) = OPR(1565)*8 + OPR(2198)*1 + OPR(1870)*1 + ... Once you arrange the scores of all the teams from a regional in this way, then you end up with N equations (one big sum of scores per team) and N unknowns (the offensive power ratings). This can be solved to find out the OPRs. Without further ado, here they are for GTR. I'll be doing other regionals in the very near future. |
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Re: Offensive Power Rankings for 2008
These power rankings were a great help in 2006. (very accurate and very predictive) Of course they did not predict the exact outcome of matches, but it certainly let a team know what they were up against and who they were partnered with. It was a big part of our Championship scouting routine in 2006.
Thanks for offering to do this! |
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Re: Offensive Power Rankings for 2008
The penalties are such a huge factor this year, unless you find a way to account for them, this formula won't accurately reflect a teams offensive ability.
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Re: Offensive Power Rankings for 2008
Exactly correct. These shouldn't be used as the be-all end-all of scouting, but perhaps as pointers to find gems in the rough. There are many things that can happen in this game (and in other years) that aren't encapsulated in a simple number.
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Re: Offensive Power Rankings for 2008
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Another interesting thing is that a team that constantly gets in the way of it's alliance parters would have a lower OPR then one that scores the same number of points but allows it's alliance partners to live to their full potential. |
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Re: Offensive Power Rankings for 2008
are thier going to be ones for every regional? or would that be an endeavour of the individual teams to do?
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Re: Offensive Power Rankings for 2008
Just finished the complete list. This includes every single 2nd-week and later regional. The first-week regionals have slightly different formatting for match results, and I couldn't include them easily. At least based on this analysis, we finally have an answer for the question: "Is anyone CLOSE to 1114?". The answer: no.
The top 50: Code:
1114 79.0239 2056 52.583 987 51.736 40 50.8061 233 50.1563 330 48.7413 494 47.7625 525 47.3403 217 47.1941 1625 46.0802 1024 45.6433 25 45.2803 103 45.2493 33 45.1412 39 44.6339 175 44.0685 1731 42.2656 1124 42.2552 67 42.1626 368 39.0168 20 37.4932 1718 37.472 191 37.3548 1086 37.3254 16 36.6151 126 36.0601 1251 35.7449 968 35.0079 1574 34.6153 100 34.5714 141 34.3271 1218 34.3093 836 34.1721 381 34.1544 1126 34.0365 383 33.3622 69 33.1613 79 33.0133 469 33.0073 1717 32.3547 254 31.4165 501 31.3563 365 31.2399 111 30.847 1098 30.7075 997 30.6114 1507 30.6009 1156 30.5231 1153 30.4529 47 30.3471 |
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Re: Offensive Power Rankings for 2008
I don't see entries for any teams I remember from Microsoft-Seattle Regional (Week 4).
![]() Last edited by MCahoon : 30-03-2008 at 16:47. Reason: clarification |
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Re: Offensive Power Rankings for 2008
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If you can't factor out alliance penalties then there is way too much "luck of the draw" possible in this chart. |
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Re: Offensive Power Rankings for 2008
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In fact, I can think of a way I should be able to get the week 1 regionals working as well. Check this thread again in 10 minutes, I should have an updated one up. |
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Re: Offensive Power Rankings for 2008
If you let me know a precise format you want, I can give you a huge CSV dump into the formatting you want from The Blue Alliance's database.
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Re: Offensive Power Rankings for 2008
I would also like to see standings of all teams ranked based on their record at the attended official events (Win-Loss-Tie).
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Re: Offensive Power Rankings for 2008
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So including week 1, the top 50 now looks like: Code:
1114 68.5388 2056 53.7198 987 51.0249 233 50.3309 330 48.6782 39 44.2954 103 43.4295 1731 42.7127 1124 42.087 67 42.0777 525 41.482 175 40.3134 25 40.2684 217 40.0997 1024 39.8043 1718 38.6849 1086 37.4098 191 37.0664 20 36.9179 40 36.6407 1251 36.1213 368 35.623 121 35.5714 1625 35.182 968 35.1251 494 35.0843 1218 35.0123 1574 34.6153 383 34.1952 141 34.1791 1126 33.9523 79 33.8184 469 33.2445 1717 32.6876 69 32.3057 254 32.2835 126 32.1564 33 32.0724 365 31.1953 1507 30.8839 47 30.8582 1156 30.7724 16 30.6096 1065 30.3857 836 30.1605 381 30.1114 93 29.8324 195 29.8271 1512 29.78 Last edited by Bongle : 30-03-2008 at 17:18. |
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Re: Offensive Power Rankings for 2008
The CSV is too big to attach. Find it here: http://www.thebluealliance.net/cdvid...30_matches.csv
Let me know if that works for you ![]() Last edited by Greg Marra : 30-03-2008 at 19:07. |
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Re: Offensive Power Rankings for 2008
Okay I somewhat understand how this is all calculated but I am guessing that somebody has already made an excel file to calculate all this? I tried to download one from '06 but the link was broken so can somebody please upload a new one? Thanks.
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