Dean for Nobel Prize???

[catsylve]

If you consider the type of organization that Dean has worked to promote in FIRST, I doubt that receiving an award will influence the work that he does. Dean does the things he does out of a desire to improve humanity and that type of dedication doesn't come from a desire to get awards. The respect of the many people Dean has helped means a great deal more than the actual award. We can show that respect by emulating his actions and helping to bring about change.

[DarkFlame145]

I'm not saying that FIRST is the reason why he deserves it it's just a another thing that I think deserves recognition. His work with water purification I think will be very impotent in the future. He has also brought comfort to people that are in wheelchairs with his Ibot and making them more accessible to places.

[Mike Nawrot]

Originally Posted by DarkFlame145

I'm not saying that FIRST is the reason why he deserves it it's just a another thing that I think deserves recognition. His work with water purification I think will be very impotent in the future. He has also brought comfort to people that are in wheelchairs with his Ibot and making them more accessible to places.

Many people have done work in water purification. There are tons of effective, practical systems i've seen. The biggest thing, and the thing that will be worthy of a Nobel Prize, will be actually implementing these systems throughout the world. As for the other work Dean has done...
1)The segway. If this made him worth of a Nobel Prize, then why wouldn't Henry Ford have won an award for making automobiles readily available to people? Afterall, that revolutionized transportation far more than the segway might ever do.
2)The Ibot- how many times have you seen someone on an Ibot? Yea, they're helpful, and they're nifty, but so are a lot of other things. They help such a small percentage of people that it's rather insignificant when compared to some of the Nobel Prize winning accomplishments. Needless to say, it's a great idea, and the engineers that developed the Ibot deserve recognition for their work, but not to the extent of a nobel prize.
3)All the medical innovations he's made- They have generally been improvements upon technology that already existed, making it more handy for hospitals, but generally doing what other equipment has already been able to do. No great discoveries or anything of that nature. Giving him a Nobel Prize for this would mean that all the other inventors that have improved medical technology would deserve Nobel Prizes.
4)The prothestetic arm- this could be considered worthy of a Nobel Prize, I guess, but only after implementing it well. But what was said for the Ibot can be said for this as well. The influence isn't broad enough to truly be worthy.
5)FIRST- Yes, this was his brain child, but has he really been the one to inspire all the students? Or has it been the mentors that inspired? Also, it's not a very concrete thing to base a Nobel Prize on. One could argue that the people who leave FIRST and do great things for humanity would have done those things without FIRST. He may have inspired many people, but if that's the basis for a Nobel Prize, then why didn't Linus Paulings high school teachers get a Nobel Prize when he did?

The truth is, Dean has done a lot of impressive and cool things through life, and he has made a difference, but the culmination of things he's done and the differences he's made aren't broad enough to be worthy of a Nobel Prize. We'll see where the water purification goes. If a few years down the line, clean water is available to everyone, then he'll definately deserve a Nobel Prize. Assuming no one beats him too it.

[XXShadowXX]

the noble prize link that was post previously was to the peace prize.


The winners of the peace prize do things that improve the general welbeing of the entire planet like nuclear disarmment
physics worthy; discover HIGS boson, discover super symetry, unite physics
chemistry worthy; i don't like chemistry so i don't even know
medicine; cure for common cold, cure for cancer, how to regrow limbs
literature; write a really really really good book
Economics; write a really really really good book


I think Dean is a great guy and a genius but his inventions are not worthy of the noble prize

[XXShadowXX]

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[Uberbots]

im guessing that if one of us wins a Nobel Prize someday, it would mean more to Dean than if he had gotten it himself.

[DarkFlame145]

If Al Gore can get a Noble for telling us something we already know. Why can't Dean get one for trying to improve the way people live? He has impacted so many people, from the extremely poor that don't have clean running water, to people that have had something medically honorific happen to them, and to High school students, to try to encourage them into a field of science and technology to better the world.

[vivek16]

I think Dean is the kind of person who would feel a lot better if he bettered the world than if he won the Nobel Prize.

-Vivek

[DarkFlame145]

All I'm getting at is that i think he deserves the recognition for everything he has done. Sure he would be just as happy if not, but I'm a strong supporter of that people that have done great things should be recognized accordingly.

[Mike Nawrot]

Originally Posted by DarkFlame145

He has impacted so many people, from the extremely poor that don't have clean running water

He hasn't done that though. He's attempting to, but he hasn't yet. The technology to do that is available in many forms, but nobody has been able to implement it around the world. Also, surprisingly, there are still skeptics of global warming, and Al Gore did much more than just tell us something we already know. Keep in mind, he wasn't the only one that won the prize. It was an entire UN committee. They were awarded the prize "for their efforts to build up and disseminate greater knowledge about man-made climate change, and to lay the foundations for the measures that are needed to counteract such change" (nobelpeaceprize.org). In other words, they were awarded the prize for attempting to unite the world against what is the biggest issue mankind as a whole may ever face. Dean, on the other hand, is trying to repair a culture that has been spoiled with celebrities and excessive money, and has lost sight of the value of education, creative thinking, and engineering. This is not a world issue he is trying to conquer, nor is it the biggest issue in the world. Yes, FIRST is great, and I love it, and I know it has made a big impact on me personally. And yes, Dean deserves some recognition for it. That does not mean he deserves a Nobel Prize though. He has not made a major contribution to the world, yet.
Don't get me wrong, Dean is worthy of quite a bit of recognition, but to claim that he deserves a Nobel Prize shows a bit of ignorance of what a Nobel Prize actually signifies.

[DarkFlame145]

I'm tired of defending my though. It was just and Idea and what I think. Like it or not, but I think Dean deserves it, maybe not right now, but some day.

[vivek16]

Originally Posted by DarkFlame145

I'm tired of defending my though. It was just and Idea and what I think. Like it or not, but I think Dean deserves it, maybe not right now, but some day.

Check again in twenty years. I'll bet he will have his water purification system and also his Stirling device cheaply available and spread out through the world by then. Nobody deserves an award when they are on the verge of a breakthrough. Dean has changed a lot of things but the global impact has not yet shown. He is a great guy and his work has changed my life but he will not deserve a nobel until he changes the world (which i think he will).

-Vivek