2008 Boston Regional

[commodoredl]

With shooter robots it is sometimes difficult to tell and sometimes annoying with calling the "Impeding Hurdling" penalty. I know that 578 ran into tons of problems with not getting that called on their opponents. In one match we were trying to launch and actually rammed from behind as our arm lowered to kick the ball. We only kicked it about 4 feet high because of that and no penalty was called, but we still won the match.
On a team like 125, their shooter device was located on the robot and "loaded" very slowly (I think), so a ref would have a hard time knowing if it was trying to hurdle. Some liberties would have to be taken to be fair to the shooter team, especially if they actually are in the act of hurdling without raising any sort of arm.

[alex1699]

i had fun and would to thank 2043 for picking team 1699 as an alliance. out of the last three year of building robots that was the first time for are team. thank you so much. i was so happy hearing we would like team one six nine nine after thinking about who that was. thank you so much. i stil have a smile on my face.

[Brandon Holley]

Originally Posted by raceteen48

ok, I don't like that they put the and/or in there, they should have made it one of the others, because the way i read it, the "or" was meant for when they are stopped next to the rack putting it over and are above the rack.

but either way it doesn't make a difference, I saw the match, and 69 was coming around the turn, and 125 backed in front of them, and hyper hit them, they then were sitting still i believe, and if hyper were to have backed up they would have broken a plane and gotten a ten point penalty, they really had to keep pushing or else they would have gotten penalized for something else, idk, i guess it was just a bad call all around. it was in QF4 match 1 btw can be found here http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv...p?matchid=9738

and Congrats rosie on the award

Honestly I thought it was a legitimate call. We have a strong relationship with HYPER so right after the match we exchanged thoughts and were both fine with the way that call went. That alliance went on to win the QF anyway so no harm done, HYPER is alright in our books.

I talked to benge and he reiterated to me that a shooter has the same protection if we are moving toward the overpass. We were moving toward the overpass until HYPER hit us. Thats the way I see it.

Originally Posted by commodoredl

With shooter robots it is sometimes difficult to tell and sometimes annoying with calling the "Impeding Hurdling" penalty. I know that 578 ran into tons of problems with not getting that called on their opponents. In one match we were trying to launch and actually rammed from behind as our arm lowered to kick the ball. We only kicked it about 4 feet high because of that and no penalty was called, but we still won the match.
On a team like 125, their shooter device was located on the robot and "loaded" very slowly (I think), so a ref would have a hard time knowing if it was trying to hurdle. Some liberties would have to be taken to be fair to the shooter team, especially if they actually are in the act of hurdling without raising any sort of arm.

It takes around 4-5 seconds for us to load, but for 90% of the match we are loaded anyway. We were making sure we had a clear lane to the overpass as well as making sure we were straight on, however we were still attempting to move toward the overpass and were prohibited at doing that.


Congrats to everyone at Boston...it was an awesome event.

[raceteen48]

well, I realize that it didn't affect the outcome, but i know that in between matches our whole alliance was questioning it, I understand it now, but i would have liked a better explanation from the ref i asked rather than just "the ball has to be above the ground, that was the main problem I had

[Roger]

I want to extend a personal thank you to Rosie Robotics (team 839) for giving me a nice lunch in the garage on Friday! Roger.

[peace]

I would just like to say the Boston Regional was a wonderful experience. The venue is just great for this event and the volunteers did such a wonderful job.

The teams really came with their best stuff. Congratulations to all.

I am posting pictures of the event. I have been doing a few events for FIRST as part of my VISTA service and have learned a lot on how to photograph these events specifically, unfortunately do to the sheer amount of data collected and to provide these images in at least a minimally timely fashion, you will see the good and the bad together. I collected about 20gigs of image data total. Download time from cards to computers was about 7 hours. Anyone with high speed cpu's or motherboards to donate, we will graciously accept.

Image Gallery and Slideshow:

http://www.beaverbots.com/boston_frc/index.htm

More images later in the week.
peace

[raceteen48]

does anyone have pictures or vidoes of Team 1100 hanging from the bar? the Webcast shot is not very good.

Thanks!

[Daniel Brim]

Wow. What a regional. The 2008 Boston regional is BY FAR the best planned, run, and attended regional that I have ever been to. Clearly, this deserves a huge thank you to the planning committee, the regional director, and the attendees.

To team 839 (Rosie): It was a pleasure working with you with Ask an Engineer. Whenever we needed extra help, parts, and such, you were one of the first teams that we went to. And congratulations on your much deserved Chairman's Award. The description, while good, did not capture the full extent of your efforts in the FIRST community. Having personally worked with two former Rosie members (Kyle and Neil), I can say without a doubt that you are a truly inspiring team. Good luck in Atlanta.

Also, some other thank yous to send out. Thank you to 2043 and 1699 for picking us for the elimination rounds. It's too bad that our arm broke during the third match, otherwise we could have put up more of a fight. And a thank you to the judges as well for the Delphi Driving Tomorrow's Technology award. This is the first time in the 11 year history of the NUTRONS that they have been given an award other than finalist/winner.

And on a note pertaining to the current conversation:

Originally Posted by commodoredl

With shooter robots it is sometimes difficult to tell and sometimes annoying with calling the "Impeding Hurdling" penalty. I know that 578 ran into tons of problems with not getting that called on their opponents. In one match we were trying to launch and actually rammed from behind as our arm lowered to kick the ball. We only kicked it about 4 feet high because of that and no penalty was called, but we still won the match.
On a team like 125, their shooter device was located on the robot and "loaded" very slowly (I think), so a ref would have a hard time knowing if it was trying to hurdle. Some liberties would have to be taken to be fair to the shooter team, especially if they actually are in the act of hurdling without raising any sort of arm.

It was fairly obvious when we were ready to shoot, because the winch was back. It did take quite awhile to prepare to fire, but a lap was enough time.

Thank you again Boston, and I look forward to seeing what is in store for next year.

[AmoryG]

Originally Posted by Daniel Brim

Also, some other thank yous to send out. Thank you to 2043 and 1699 for picking us for the elimination rounds. It's too bad that our arm broke during the third match, otherwise we could have put up more of a fight. And a thank you to the judges as well for the Delphi Driving Tomorrow's Technology award. This is the first time in the 11 year history of the NUTRONS that they have been given an award other than finalist/winner.

Yea, I was a bit disappointed when your arm broke, I loved seeing it in action, always wondering if the ball would fly out of the arena .