Great Lakes Regional 08

[daf]

1) Is there a website or anyone that has vids of the GLR matches?

2) I was also wondering if some teams could share their scouting method (not how they scout, but what they look for). The reason I'm asking is because my team (894) finished with a 6-2 record and on the ranks ended up at 12. Unfortunately though, we didn't get selected into the quarterfinals. I'm not complaining (I'll admit I was frustrated), but I just want to know why so we can improve it and make our robot better. (There were some teams that got selected and I was very surprised because I thought that there were a few other robots that had better qualities.) But like I said, just want to know what some of the teams looked for....Thanks and hope to see you all at nationals.

[nikeairmancurry]

Well sometimes you look for the robots that have been progressive been getting better as the weekend has gone on.. like us (326) and 503 were doing (Nicely selected by the number 7 seeded HOT (67) team). Then you might look to a team that has expirence in the elimations rounds and can come up with good defense (like we did) or can just paly smart and advoid tons of peneltys.

Advice also would to have a group of people in the stands lookng a robots and seeing if they are getting better or if its just luck that they are that high in the standings..

[Karthik]

Every year this sort of "blocking" strategy occurs and every year people get upset about it. No matter what anyone thinks, the #1 seed has the right to select whomever they want, even if they have no interest in pairing up with them. As the #1 seed, they've earned the right to try and block other alliances from forming. 1114 fell victim to this strategy on the Curie field last year. Many people came up to us talking about how 1732 "screwed" us and 330 over. My response to them was very simple, "we screwed ourselves by not seeding #1".

The serpentine draft already penalizes the #1 seed enough, there's no need to jump on them for executing a savvy strategy.

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by Karthik

Every year this sort of "blocking" strategy occurs and every year people get upset about it. No matter what anyone thinks, the #1 seed has the right to select whomever they want, even if they have no interest in pairing up with them. As the #1 seed, they've earned the right to try and block other alliances from forming. 1114 fell victim to this strategy on the Curie field last year. Many people came up to us talking about how 1732 "screwed" us and 330 over. My response to them was very simple, "we screwed ourselves by not seeding #1".

The serpentine draft already penalizes the #1 seed enough, there's no need to jump on them for executing a savvy strategy.

Totally agree, I see it as strategy.

[meaubry]

Joe,
In response to your comment "Contrary to how Mike explained it, there was no guesswork after asking around a bit."
I think I explained it very accurately and I even left wiggle room with a (?) after the word "guessing".
I appreciate that you are confirming that you had already asked and recieved a response from each team involved (27, 33, and 67) so the "guesswork" was eliminated.
I also had discussions with all 3 teams (in addition to 217) in order to determine if they would accept an offer from us in the #2 spot. Not knowing which way your team would go, we needed multiple alternative plans ready. It was very important for us to also have confidence in our 3rd thru 7th choices - not knowing how many teams you would chance forcing a decline from.
2 of the 3 said that they would accept if offered, 1 respectfully declined.
My motivation in asking them the question was solely to eliminate an embarrassing situation - as I stated earlier, I don't like putting teams in that situation under any circumstances.
Unfortunately for us, by these teams saying no to your team, they were also saying no to us.
I totally understand the rationale used and don't find it objectionable at all.
The number of really good teams were abundent at Great Lakes, and we chose 494 without any regrets at all.
We had a great time playing with them - even though things didn't quite work out so well for us.
Against the eventual champions, we won the first match pretty handily, but had some bad luck in the 2nd and 3rd matches. That also shows how deep of a field of robots attended the regional - all 8 of the alliances were very, very, competitive - without any being totally dominating.

Mike

[Jacob L]

I'm glad this issue over the alliance selections has been clarified. I don't believe there was any foul play last Saturday; it was an excellent strategy. I'm grateful that there were no "super-alliances" this year. It was probably the best and most competitive regional I've seen as a student in FIRST.

Now, I'd like to thank and congratulate a few teams.

33- First of all, congrats to Jim for winning the regional Woodie Flowers Award. I was surprised that you hadn't won it earlier, and I wouldn't be shocked in the slightest to see you win the national Woodie Flowers award. Anyway, thank you very much for picking us. We had fun being your alliance partner, and if it weren't for some technical problems, I really think we could have challenged the #1 alliance for a spot in the finals. This is the second time in three years that we have had the privilege of being your alliance partner. You guys are an awesome team and I wish the best of luck to you in Atlanta!

107- Thank you for being an awesome alliance partner. You and 33 were great in the quarterfinals, hurdling like crazy while we played defense. It was unfortunate to lose the way we did, but it was a great time all the same. I hope to see you soon in Atlanta.

67, 503, 326- Congrats to the winners of one of the toughest regionals in all of FIRST. Your hybrid mode impressed me and your teamwork was flawless. For 67 and 503, this is another victory in a long list of accomplishments. For 326, I applaud your AWESOME robot. Your hurdler impressed me all weekend! Good luck to all three of you at the Championship!

27- Your robot is perhaps the most innovative machine I've seen all year. Your hurdler was incredible and I was as surprised as anyone when you lost in the semifinals. You will be a force to be reckoned with Atlanta; I just hope we don't have to come up against you like we did two years ago.

217- One of my favorite teams to watch all weekend. Your robot is incredibly simple, and yet so effective. Your drive team is incredible too. It was unfortunate that you were unable to win your third straight regional, but don't lose too much sleep over it; you'll come out strong in Atlanta. Also, I want to thank you for your respect and humility toward our drive team. I wish you nothing but the best in Atlanta!

Phew! Two weeks off, then the real competition begins. Hope to see you all there!

[MasterChief 573]

Originally Posted by Jacob L

I'm glad this issue over the alliance selections has been clarified. I don't believe there was any foul play last Saturday; it was an excellent strategy. I'm grateful that there were no "super-alliances" this year. It was probably the best and most competitive regional I've seen as a student in FIRST.

Now, I'd like to thank and congratulate a few teams.

33- First of all, congrats to Jim for winning the regional Woodie Flowers Award. I was surprised that you hadn't won it earlier, and I wouldn't be shocked in the slightest to see you win the national Woodie Flowers award. Anyway, thank you very much for picking us. We had fun being your alliance partner, and if it weren't for some technical problems, I really think we could have challenged the #1 alliance for a spot in the finals. This is the second time in three years that we have had the privilege of being your alliance partner. You guys are an awesome team and I wish the best of luck to you in Atlanta!

107- Thank you for being an awesome alliance partner. You and 33 were great in the quarterfinals, hurdling like crazy while we played defense. It was unfortunate to lose the way we did, but it was a great time all the same. I hope to see you soon in Atlanta.

67, 503, 326- Congrats to the winners of one of the toughest regionals in all of FIRST. Your hybrid mode impressed me and your teamwork was flawless. For 67 and 503, this is another victory in a long list of accomplishments. For 326, I applaud your AWESOME robot. Your hurdler impressed me all weekend! Good luck to all three of you at the Championship!

27- Your robot is perhaps the most innovative machine I've seen all year. Your hurdler was incredible and I was as surprised as anyone when you lost in the semifinals. You will be a force to be reckoned with Atlanta; I just hope we don't have to come up against you like we did two years ago.

217- One of my favorite teams to watch all weekend. Your robot is incredibly simple, and yet so effective. Your drive team is incredible too. It was unfortunate that you were unable to win your third straight regional, but don't lose too much sleep over it; you'll come out strong in Atlanta. Also, I want to thank you for your respect and humility toward our drive team. I wish you nothing but the best in Atlanta!

Phew! Two weeks off, then the real competition begins. Hope to see you all there!

I wouldn't be suprised if every alliance that made it to einstein had at least one GLR team, thats how impressed I was with the robots at this competition. With a few tweaks to the autonomous (I'll give you a hint, we plan on rocking a ghettoblaster.) our team would love to be one of them but we shall see.

[Alex Dinsmoor]

Originally Posted by Jacob L

I'm glad this issue over the alliance selections has been clarified. I don't believe there was any foul play last Saturday; it was an excellent strategy. I'm grateful that there were no "super-alliances" this year. It was probably the best and most competitive regional I've seen as a student in FIRST.

Now, I'd like to thank and congratulate a few teams.

33- First of all, congrats to Jim for winning the regional Woodie Flowers Award. I was surprised that you hadn't won it earlier, and I wouldn't be shocked in the slightest to see you win the national Woodie Flowers award. Anyway, thank you very much for picking us. We had fun being your alliance partner, and if it weren't for some technical problems, I really think we could have challenged the #1 alliance for a spot in the finals. This is the second time in three years that we have had the privilege of being your alliance partner. You guys are an awesome team and I wish the best of luck to you in Atlanta!

107- Thank you for being an awesome alliance partner. You and 33 were great in the quarterfinals, hurdling like crazy while we played defense. It was unfortunate to lose the way we did, but it was a great time all the same. I hope to see you soon in Atlanta.

67, 503, 326- Congrats to the winners of one of the toughest regionals in all of FIRST. Your hybrid mode impressed me and your teamwork was flawless. For 67 and 503, this is another victory in a long list of accomplishments. For 326, I applaud your AWESOME robot. Your hurdler impressed me all weekend! Good luck to all three of you at the Championship!

27- Your robot is perhaps the most innovative machine I've seen all year. Your hurdler was incredible and I was as surprised as anyone when you lost in the semifinals. You will be a force to be reckoned with Atlanta; I just hope we don't have to come up against you like we did two years ago.

217- One of my favorite teams to watch all weekend. Your robot is incredibly simple, and yet so effective. Your drive team is incredible too. It was unfortunate that you were unable to win your third straight regional, but don't lose too much sleep over it; you'll come out strong in Atlanta. Also, I want to thank you for your respect and humility toward our drive team. I wish you nothing but the best in Atlanta!

Phew! Two weeks off, then the real competition begins. Hope to see you all there!

You couldn't have put my thoughts into one statement better Jacob. I just couldn't muster up the time to put them all down.

[Alex Dinsmoor]

I would also like to congratulate team 245 on the best website award. As a website designer I understand how complicated it is to write something like that and wish that I could. I am also amazed that it was all done by an 8th grader (not that age matters though), he must have tons of experience to be able to write something like that. You guys were also an amazing team who should made it higher than the QF's and we only wished here at Rochester that we could have versed you in the finals (any of them). Good luck next year (or at any events sooner)!

[HighLife]

All of the Adambots Great Lakes matches are up!
Video
There are many teams in these videos so check them out
Pictures Here

Originally Posted by Alex Dinsmoor

I would also like to congratulate team 245 on the best website award. As a website designer I understand how complicated it is to write something like that and wish that I could. I am also amazed that it was all done by an 8th grader (not that age matters though), he must have tons of experience to be able to write something like that. You guys were also an amazing team who should made it higher than the QF's and we only wished here at Rochester that we could have versed you in the finals (any of them). Good luck next year (or at any events sooner)!

Thank you. I was disappointed that we weren't able to play with you guys. There's always next year, maybe we'll even be on the same alliance.

[Alex Dinsmoor]

Originally Posted by HighLife

Thank you. I was disappointed that we weren't able to play with you guys. There's always next year, maybe we'll even be on the same alliance.

That would be cool if we could, especially if we get into the finals with us both on the same alliance. Sort of like the Rochester United teams, but with robotics...

It also stinks that you had to be up against rush in both QFs. They are a really good team with a good robot.

Also say hi to Sidd for me...

[RyanCesiel]

Originally Posted by Alex Dinsmoor

I would also like to congratulate team 245 on the best website award. As a website designer I understand how complicated it is to write something like that and wish that I could. I am also amazed that it was all done by an 8th grader (not that age matters though), he must have tons of experience to be able to write something like that. You guys were also an amazing team who should made it higher than the QF's and we only wished here at Rochester that we could have versed you in the finals (any of them). Good luck next year (or at any events sooner)!

Just curious, how'd you know I was an 8th grader? When you first posted this, I was sure that my brother told you.

[DGrohnke1023]

Last year after GLR, Karthik pointed out that 7 of the 8 alliances had a former world champion on them.

1. 66 - 217 - 910
2. 47- 494 - 1023
3. 27 - 469 - 1646
4. 1718 -70 - 451
5. 33 - 107 - 201
6. 65 - 68 - 245
7. 67 - 503 - 326
8. 291 - 573 - 862

World Champions are marked in Red, World Finalists in Blue and World Semi Finalists in Green. Only 5 of 8 alliances has a former world champion, but 2 had 2. Of 24 teams in the eliminations over half (14) had played on Einstein. The Finals saw 4 world champions on the floor at the same time.

[Josh Murphy]

Originally Posted by DGrohnke1023

Last year after GLR, Karthik pointed out that 7 of the 8 alliances had a former world champion on them.

1. 66 - 217 - 910
2. 47 - 494 - 1023
3. 27 - 469 - 1646
4. 1718 -70 - 451
5. 33 - 107 - 201
6. 65 - 68 - 245
7. 67 - 503 - 326
8. 291 - 573 - 862

World Champions are marked in Red, World Finalists in Blue and World Semi Finalists in Green. Only 5 of 8 alliances has a former world champion, but 3 had 2. Of 24 teams in the eliminations over half (14) had played on Einstein. Quarter Final 3 and the Finals saw 4 world champions on the floor at the same time.

Team 47 has never been a world champion. We have been a world finalist.

[daf]

Hey I'm jw... is there any website or anyone that can post a link to get some vids from the GLR. I was looking around a lil bit lately and I can't find them.

Thanks.